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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
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    AMD 7970
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    GTX 680
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I still think that if your going to liquid cool your graphics, that you should go with the better overckocking chip, which the 7970 seems to be.

stock cooler/ stock temperatures / stock voltage / stock clock performance becomes absolutley unimportant for true enthusiasts.
    
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I dont know how about GTX680 benefit from Water Cooling but the fact that HD 7970 can clock high means that you can go water not just being cool and quite but OC good too. You can get a 1.4v Bios and push it over 1250Mhz even for a poor card. I dont know how much the power delivery system will handle when it comes to 680.

So your solution to get the same performance from an already-more-expensive-by-$50 card is to spend another $100+ on water cooling, further worsening the value, and resulting in a ton of work? I don't see how that is an objective opinion whatsoever as to what most people should do.
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I still think that if your going to liquid cool your graphics, that you should go with the better overckocking chip, which the 7970 seems to be.
stock cooler/ stock temperatures / stock voltage / stock clock performance becomes absolutley unimportant for true enthusiasts.

The number of people who watercool with custom loops is MINUTE compared to the number who overclock. It's a niche of a niche, and adds even further large expense to an already costly card, all to match/slightly beat it finally. For virtually everyone, the GTX 680 is the better choice... if you are doing custom watercooling, well, that's an exceptional case and in your particular circumstance you may be better served with a Radeon 7970.
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I am tired of people saying the gtx 680 is midrange when it costs 550 USD after taxes.. If it really was made to compete with the 7870 then its pricing would reflect that, obviously it was designed to compete with the 7970. GK110 will be a bigger jump from the gtx 680 than the gtx 680 is from 7970, but not by much (i am guessing 10-15%) with better overclockability. This card (GTX 685) will cost 599 USD, the 7970 will adjust to 449 USD, and the 7990 will cost 899 USD. Nvidia's dual card solution will be based on gk104, keeping the price is accordance with the 7990. AMD might or might not have an answer to the GTX 685. (They never did for the GTX 285 back in the day) But never the less, their flagship dual cards will be neck and neck, it comes down to which runs cooler and which can clock higher while overclocked.

wth.gif You need to learn how profit margins and pricing work my friend.

Why would Nvidia charge a mid-range price for a product that can beat the competitions top card and reduce profit margins?

Please don't ever go into business for your self.
post #364 of 679
Both cards are absolutely great lets not forget that.

When they are both overclocked they perform very very close across the board, with both having a few games they seem to like.
For the 7970 its Metro 2033, for the 680 its BF3.

I think most people buying a card today would go for a 680 if they are honest - if they are priced equal why not get the card which shades the other at stock, and does so using less power ???
Thats why AMD should lower the price a little really. (or alot would be great !!!)

However having said that 7970's here in the UK are a tad cheaper, cheapest being a Sapphire @ £381 Here
680's are starting @ £397 Here , Palit.

Personally I got one of the above Sapphires a month or so ago and i'm over the moon with it at 1260/1640, of course i'd love it it it used less power (but it sure uses less than my old 580 3GB did) but if i was making the choice about which card to buy now, well i'd probably go for the 680 if i'm honest.
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No, there is no way to make things EXACTLY even but limiting the overclocks to stock voltage will give you as fair a comparison as is possible. I think its clear that these two cards are very even when overclocked as Pioneer and Kcuestag's results have shown. Anybody comparing the two for purchase ought to be looking at what they want to do with the card and deciding which one does that best. If you don't want to adjust voltages, want PhysX, and need lower power consumption the 680 is the best choice. If you need to use OpenCL and like to overvolt your cards get a 7970...

Stock voltage is hard to do, with the 680 changing its voltage while boosting and all.
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Stock voltage is hard to do, with the 680 changing its voltage while boosting and all.

You cannot boost the 680 past its "stock" voltage, it maxes and automatically goes to 1.175v software-sensing and there's nothing you can do to change that. Thus, it is stock as it comes that way.
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wth.gif You need to learn how profit margins and pricing work my friend.
Why would Nvidia charge a mid-range price for a product that can beat the competitions top card and reduce profit margins?
Please don't ever go into business for your self.

well then its not midrange just based off the price alone. Nvidia would even tell you its not midrange GPU.
    
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the gist i get from reading this thread, is that if you ignore the fact that the 7970 has had much more time to work on the drivers, and ignore the fact that the 680 beats the 7970 at temp, power usage, and performance when at stock speeds, and you ignore the fact that the 680 is currently significantly cheaper, as well as the fact that the majority of Overclock.net users agree that the 680 is currently the king of cards.. the cards come out as a draw. If you DONT ignore these facts, the 680 comes out as the clear winner.
    
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the gist i get from reading this thread, is that if you ignore the fact that the 7970 has had much more time to work on the drivers, and ignore the fact that the 680 beats the 7970 at temp, power usage, and performance when at stock speeds, and you ignore the fact that the 680 is currently significantly cheaper, as well as the fact that the majority of Overclock.net users agree that the 680 is currently the king of cards.. the cards come out as a draw. If you DONT ignore these facts, the 680 comes out as the clear winner.

Basically this.
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Isn't there an entire 680 vs 7970 battle royale thread going to hash out which card truly performs best? Why not just wait for the results rather than stating opinions that have no relevance? By the way, I've already decided who wins this round from my point of view: MSI R7970 Lightning! As soon as I can get my hands on two they will be in my rig!. Of course when they release 680 Lightnings I may have to amend my decision... thumb.gif
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