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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
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    AMD 7970
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    GTX 680
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post #411 of 679
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Lol since when the GTX 590 is 100% better than the 6990 may i ask? Yes i owned 2x GTX 590 Classified and a 6990 before so i would know.

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And when the 690 comes out, it will be 100% better than the 7990 wink.gif. Just like the 590 with the 6990

lol, technically the 6990 was about the same as a GTX590 because:

1. It wasn't limited so they were easy to buy
2. In my country it is cheaper
3. They both perform almost identically.
4. You are obviously a nvidia fanboy who dreams alot.
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Better? Perhaps I should clarify, less BSOD's, crashes to desktop, flickering textures and enviroments, etc.
Micro-stutter is evident in both setups to varying degrees, I made no mention of that in my comments nor did I make reference to scaling. I could care less if my crossfire setup scales better if I get texture and graphic anomalies and crash to desktop every 20 minutes.
Also, I hadn't checked recent prices so the delta may be closer.
I bought my 680's for $499 each at NCIX in Canada. The cheapest 7970 was just under $600 (The Asus one I bought was $589 when I bought it).

I know your a mod and all but I don't buy that you were having multiple BSODs with your CF setups. Having owned both a CF and SLI setup and never ever experiencing a BSOD with either my thinking is that user error was involved somewhere along the line.

Flickering textures happen in some games but generally that is fixed with CAP updates and is an issue reserved for new releases. Crash to desktops every 20 minutes sounds like a huge stretch as well. I've experienced that with both SLI/CF and single card setups but never 'every twenty minutes'. If I was crashing every twenty minutes I'd go online and find something to fix it. If you can find me an example of a game that currently suffers from the "crashing to desktop every twenty minutes" in SLI/CF bug though I'd love to hear you out.

CF/SLI is not an easy way to go and that's not what I'm trying to say. People on these forums however have a tendency to blow issues wayyy out of proportion. The reality is that the biggest issue you will encounter with either setups is some games simply not supporting them.
    
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post #414 of 679
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450
Seriously. Leap frogging has been happening for ever, and it's only good for technology and the customer. There is no point taking sides because NV will knock AMD and then AMD will punt NV.
The fact that you have a flame makes me want somehow create a teleport with which I can beam myself to a different universe.

Intresting! The 7970 @ 1335 mhz is 45% higher clocks, while the gk110 claims to be 50% better than the gtx 680. These still seem very close, and it will ultimatley come down to overcklockability.

Given the GTX 690 is 2 x GK 104 (2 x gtx 680), and the 7990 is 2 x 7970, i bet ASUS will create a dual GK 110 card for their MARS III ROG collection, and will have this exclusivley.
    
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414 replies within 2 days! This seems to be a hot topic thumb.gif
    
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At this point, I don't know why people are arguing over this. The GTX 680 is 5-15% faster than the 7970, consumes a bit less power, and is $50 cheaper (or more considering the crazy 7970 mark up).

Either way it doesn't matter, AMD NEEDS to drop the price of the 7970 NOW. Make that sucker $449 and it will be priced where it should and people will start thinking twice whether to grab that or the 680.

I actually recently bought two 6950s and ran them in crossfire. Wow I was disappointed and now see for myself the headache that people go through. Driver issues, extra heat, extra noise, micro-stutter. It's an absolute nightmare! I'm already putting them back up for sale and looking to get the 680 when they come in stock. It's going to be single GPU's for me the rest of my life until Nvidia or AMD eliminates it.
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We can sit here and debate forever, this round of cards there is no clear winner like the 580 beating the 6970 easily. Both are great cards at the end of the day. If there is a performance gain whether stock or OC seems to yield little difference to crown either a winner. The 'king' would have to win by a further margin to be a clear winner. Rather than bicker, or put down the other card I think we can come to the conclusion that there is no 'true king'.

Hoestly I'm surprised this debate went this far because the bias around here wreaks. It always turns into a pissing contest.

As for popularity contest it's safe to say OCN has crowned a winner based on the numbers.

Oh well I've got my card coming Monday and going to familiarize myself. I'm building a second rig this week that will compliment PCIe 3.0 and Z68 mobo. Either SB or IVY. Going to focus on more important things. I'm more than happy with Nvidia in the 3DVision which in that area is the best hands down.

Even if 7970 is faster in OC, they've lost thier only niche this year which was multiple monitors. That alone took the biggest reason to choose AMD IMO.

Happy gaming to all the new owners of both. It's a good time for both camps to play maxed settings. thumb.gif

I would rather have nVidia's drivers: wubsmiley.gif  well the extra 50$ for beer too!

 

I will probably get my OC beat by a pair of 680s with a mediocore overclock and some mature drivers.  Then I will have to get into the 7970 bios flashing business.  See if I can unlock a second GPU or something...

 

Any of you future 680 owners that can easily spank all the 7970s are more than welcome to take me on :)

 

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At this point, I don't know why people are arguing over this. The GTX 680 is 5-15% faster than the 7970, consumes a bit less power, and is $50 cheaper (or more considering the crazy 7970 mark up).
Either way it doesn't matter, AMD NEEDS to drop the price of the 7970 NOW. Make that sucker $449 and it will be priced where it should and people will start thinking twice whether to grab that or the 680.
I actually recently bought two 6950s and ran them in crossfire. Wow I was disappointed and now see for myself the headache that people go through. Driver issues, extra heat, extra noise, micro-stutter. It's an absolute nightmare! I'm already putting them back up for sale and looking to get the 680 when they come in stock. It's going to be single GPU's for me the rest of my life until Nvidia or AMD eliminates it.

The whole point in this thread is to emphasize that 5-15% isnt actually 5-15%, given that the clock on the GTX 680 is 20% higher than the 7970, but their OC limit on a decent air or liquid cooler is within error of eachother.
    
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At this point, I don't know why people are arguing over this. The GTX 680 is 5-15% faster than the 7970, consumes a bit less power, and is $50 cheaper (or more considering the crazy 7970 mark up).
Either way it doesn't matter, AMD NEEDS to drop the price of the 7970 NOW. Make that sucker $449 and it will be priced where it should and people will start thinking twice whether to grab that or the 680.
I actually recently bought two 6950s and ran them in crossfire. Wow I was disappointed and now see for myself the headache that people go through. Driver issues, extra heat, extra noise, micro-stutter. It's an absolute nightmare! I'm already putting them back up for sale and looking to get the 680 when they come in stock. It's going to be single GPU's for me the rest of my life until Nvidia or AMD eliminates it.

I don't know how many times it needs to be brought up that once overclocked the cards are basically the exact same performance wise but apparently it is a lot. Any of you guys that think I'm a fanboy or completely wrong are welcome to visit the bench off thread Ragin has made though and shut me up for good with your own results. So far in that thread though it doesn't look to good especially for those of you claiming 15%.
    
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Here is an AMD sponsered game even. This I couldn't believe because it wasn't as comparable like the other two.
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I wasn't going to comment in this thread. but I'd like to point out that you should observe the settings at which both benches you posted here were run tongue.gif. "Highest Playable settings" is kinda significant here haha.

Anyway, both cards are neck-in-neck for now. The GTX 680 is imho better value for now. If AMD matches the price of the GTX 680, the game will be even hotter given how well both cards OC.

All in all, buy what you want ... lol
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