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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
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    AMD 7970
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    GTX 680
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post #431 of 679
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Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

Clock per clock comparisons between AMD and intel CPUs is a very viable comparison in my opinion.
Also, with max OCs in the same range, the clock of the gtx 680 can very well be compared with the clock of the 7970. Nvidia is simply releasing a higher stock clocked gpu with a clock ceiling within error of the 7970.

It's not a viable comparison. Heck, you cant even compare an Intel cpu to another Intel cpu unless its from the same series. I'd rather have a 3.4ghz i7 2600k over a 5ghz Pentium. biggrin.gif

And I'm sure its the same with GPUs. 1ghz 7970 =/= 1ghz 680.

But back on topic, the biggest benefit I think the 7970 still has over the 680 is the 3GB VRAM in which will definitely make a difference on 3 monitor set ups. Now that I think about it, I'm just going to wait for the non-reference versions of the 680 and not be impatient like when I bought my 580 lol.

Exciting times though in the GPU world!
post #432 of 679
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Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

Clock per clock comparisons between AMD and intel CPUs is a very viable comparison in my opinion.
Also, with max OCs in the same range, the clock of the gtx 680 can very well be compared with the clock of the 7970. Nvidia is simply releasing a higher stock clocked gpu with a clock ceiling within error of the 7970.
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Originally Posted by Sapientia View Post

That's not how it works. lol
That's not a good way of looking at it. If you water cool it, then the 680 becomes even faster.
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One can only hope. wink.gif
post #433 of 679
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Yes but comparing a 1 ghz 2600k to a 1 ghz pentium 4 will still give you a good comparison for IPC. Whats the harm in this? But in this case, we arent comparing 15 year old tech to brand new tech. Frankly, i am comparing the 7970 with the gtx 680 clock per clock because performance per ghz is close to identical, and so is the overclock ceiling. So if naturally one is 20% higher stock clock (1110 mhz vs 925 mhz), this is what gives the gtx 680 the first apparent , yet illusionary edge in benchmarks. (~6% avg performance benefit over 7970 at stock)
    
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post #434 of 679
All this is very funny.

AMD is king, since Nvidia are totally copy and pasting them. The 680 is Nvidia admitting AMD were right all along. biggrin.gif

-AMD were always doing small and efficient chips. Now Nvidia are doing the same thing. Before, they were doing big, hot power hungry inefficient chips. 680 = copy and pasting AMD.

-AMD were doing 3 displays on a single cards. Nvida were doing it on 2 cards. Now they are doing it AMD's way on a sinlge card. So they knew all along AMD was doing it right.

Funny. It's like Nvidia said ''let's copy and paste'' what the competiton (AMD) is doing exactly. And they have done a 680.

So Nvidia are simply doing now what AMD were doing all along.

So all the Nvidia fanactics should think about that. Nvidia just told us with the 680 that AMD were doing the right thing, not them. Copy and pasting the competition = admitting the designs of the competition were better, and hurting our sales.
    
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post #435 of 679
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Then why does AMD fall behind in every single comparison for MM gaming? Edit: okay, not every instance. I misread a few.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1232948/7970-vs-gtx-680-who-is-the-real-king/400#post_16808692
Apparently they couldn't even get The Witcher 2 to run for the testing on the 7970...

That's cute, a benchmark to prove your point. I guess you misread the thread where this is all about OC vs. OC right?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/picture/?src=/images/graphics/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680/22_oc2560_big.png

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OC THAT stock card, then come talk to me.
Edited by nabokovfan87 - 3/26/12 at 4:44am
    
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post #436 of 679
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That's cute, a benchmark to prove your point. I guess you misread the thread where this is all about OC vs. OC right?
http://www.xbitlabs.com/picture/?src=/images/graphics/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680/22_oc2560_big.png
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OC THAT stock card, then come talk to me.

Why is 7950 faster then HD 7970?
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post #437 of 679
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All this is very funny.
AMD is king, since Nvidia are totally copy and pasting them. The 680 is Nvidia admitting AMD were right all along.

And yet Nivida manage to make a card that uses less power, that is cheaper and is faster in most games. Maybe AMD should copy Nvidia's theory of price to performance ratio. LOL
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post #438 of 679
The 7970 is a nice card and so is the 680. They are so close in performance.......... it's unreal compared to previous gen! We need to be happy about this fact. It could affect prices and the development of the next gen cards, right?

We need to stop wining about small percentages in difference? It really comes down which one you prefer and it is a fact that the 7970 and the 680 are two monster cards.
In my country the price difference between the two is zero so that isn't the issue (the Netherlands). You like green go green, you like red go red. My 2 cents. Peace.thumb.gif
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And yet Nivida manage to make a card that uses less power, that is cheaper and is faster in most games. Maybe AMD should copy Nvidia's theory of price to performance ratio. LOL

The AMD 79xx series was only priced the way it was due to it's competition at the time which was nothing really. They got the jump on NVIDIA by a couple months. Now that the 680 is out, I'm almost sure the price is going to come down to compete. That's a pretty dumb argument. It's easy to undercut your competition when you already have a price point to aim towards.thumb.gif

The fact is, these cards only over perform/under perform each other by a very small margin, small enough that it isn't really easy to call an EASY winner. They both have their pros and cons and at the end of the day, they both will play every game with pleasurable results.
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Yes, but the 680 is still faster, like in Battlefield 3 which is super popular atm. But your right, they are both great card. I wish I had a 7970, but I'm too poor mad.gif
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