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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
  • 37% (130)
    AMD 7970
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    GTX 680
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post #471 of 679
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Originally Posted by Arizonian View Post

Robilar I fully understand what you're saying. I mentioned once I had BSOD's and game lock ups when I went from single 6870 to crossfire and was told it was user error. I also had a lot of micro stutter which was very annoying. I moved to a single 580 and have had no driver issues, no micro stutter and free of problems for the last 13 months. Yet if you tell any AMD user that this was happening to you, they say it was an error in between the keyboard and the monitor.
Then to suggest you somehow didn't know how to correct the problem is taking your own actual knowledge in computing into question. I guess he doesn't really know who's talking to suggesting it and then trying to justify it.
I'm sure there are set ups where there are no issues unfortunately for a lot of us there are and yet the others are in disbelief because they have no problems. Denial of crossfire issues that are clearly happening to more than just a few of us.
*sarcasim* AMD is perfect, flawless, didn't you know that? rolleyes.gif

If you think AMD drivers are so bad that the average CF user is having a BSOD every twenty minutes I don't even know what to say to you. Maximum Hyperbole I guess. Going from any dual GPU to any single GPU is going to get rid of Microstutter on any setup so not really sure how that is relevant. Fact of the matter is that you will notice Microstutter when you are running under 60FPS but if the framerate is steady it's pretty hard to see for most people. Personally I do see Microstutter but again it's card agnostic and really only happens when it dips below 60.

And I don't really care who I'm talking to to be honest with you. Post count doesn't impress me, knowledge does and someone having crashes/bsods that often obviously has something to fix end of story. I also am not implying he doesn't know what he's doing or that he's not telling the truth about anything (3rd time I've said this now).

This applies to both SLI/CF as well so please don't try to make it as if I'm fanboying around in your next post that's really not what this is about.
    
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post #472 of 679
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OC THAT stock card, then come talk to me.

Sure thing, in 3 months when more polished drivers are out. wink.gif
post #473 of 679
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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

Most people that thrive for performance and need to get over 60fps are those with high res screens. 1080p @ 120fps is a Want because it will not make a difference.
Also min fps means nothing without a graph. I can hit then min 1 time and thats not very accurate.

Huh? You can't view anything over 60fps on 2560 resolutions because they are only 60hz. There is a huge advantage to running over 120fps on a 120hz monitor. Thus is why all gaming tournaments use them. You have it all backwards bro. 2560 resolutions are for photo editing not fps gaming.
 
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post #474 of 679
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If you think AMD drivers are so bad that the average CF user is having a BSOD every twenty minutes I don't even know what to say to you. Maximum Hyperbole I guess. Going from any dual GPU to any single GPU is going to get rid of Microstutter on any setup so not really sure how that is relevant. Fact of the matter is that you will notice Microstutter when you are running under 60FPS but if the framerate is steady it's pretty hard to see for most people. Personally I do see Microstutter but again it's card agnostic and really only happens when it dips below 60.
And I don't really care who I'm talking to to be honest with you. Post count doesn't impress me, knowledge does and someone having crashes/bsods that often obviously has something to fix end of story. I also am not implying he doesn't know what he's doing or that he's not telling the truth about anything (3rd time I've said this now).
This applies to both SLI/CF as well so please don't try to make it as if I'm fanboying around in your next post that's really not what this is about.

A. Now your putting words into my post. Never said 'I thought the average user is having BSOD's every 20 min'. I said I believed Robilar was and do believe it's possible.

B. I was unclear on my BSOD'S I had was on single GPU with 10.2 drivers. Sorry for that confusion.

C. I was dealing with micro stutter in crosstie and that happens to both AMD and Nvidia. Naturally going to single card I eliminated that actually. I didn't even leave AMD for those specific reasons, I moved onto 3D Vision.

D. I'm saying that when I had the BSOD's it was implied I was at error rather than something that could be fixed.

E. When someone 'suggests' they find it 'hard to believe' that implies they think the other person is lying. I don't know any other interpretations of that?

F. I realize regardless about how many posts or reps any members have dosent mean they know what they are saying but had you been on OCN long enough you'd know Robilar is quite knowledgeable. I believe him having those issues regardless his impossible you think it might be. I also understand you weren't saying he was making it up but you have to admit it if you don't buy it, what else could it mean? Hyperbole means you don't. Guess your entitled to your opinion regardless it happened.
     
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post #475 of 679
Grats guys...Real happy for us. We keep arguing over those cards and both manufacturers will get greedy = no price cuts.
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post #476 of 679
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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

Most people that thrive for performance and need to get over 60fps are those with high res screens. 1080p @ 120fps is a Want because it will not make a difference.
Also min fps means nothing without a graph. I can hit then min 1 time and thats not very accurate.

Huh? You can't view anything over 60fps on 2560 resolutions because they are only 60hz. There is a huge advantage to running over 120fps on a 120hz monitor. Thus is why all gaming tournaments use them. You have it all backwards bro. 2560 resolutions are for photo editing not fps gaming.

You've clearly never gamed at 2560x1600 then. wink.gif
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post #477 of 679
well well, who would have thought AMD and nVidia top of the line preforming the same. Way to go AMD... thumb.gif
post #478 of 679
I did switch to the red team when the 6900s were released. But I have to say thaf factoring in the cost for the performance, GTX 680 is the winner here. Can't beat equal or slightly better performance for $50 less. I am still not able to gauge the overclocking ability of the GTX 680. I am hoping it will not pop/sizle/create a firework when pushed harder (just going by the GTX 590 fiasco - nothing else).
I will wait this round out though and continue on with my 6950s.
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You've clearly never gamed at 2560x1600 then. wink.gif

2560 x 1600 and quality of IPS.

2560 + IPS > 120Hz
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2560 x 1600 and quality of IPS.
2560 + IPS > 120Hz

Can you please translate this?

You are saying that IPS is better for gaming than a 120hz monitor? What kind of gaming exactly? FPS? World of Warcraft?
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