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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
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    AMD 7970
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    GTX 680
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post #501 of 679
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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

The Problem with 120Hz is that you need to get close to 120 fps and more to benefit from it. To do this you need a lot of GPU power and at the same time being 1080p a lot of CPU power. At to the fact that you would have to CF or SLI to get those nice frames, you get away from input lag which is not a big deal if you understand that it really is and welcome stutter from dual GPUs. While Gaming might be better with 120hz having more pixels is better for everything else, having better colors is better for everything else, having better viewing angles is better for everything else.

That would be true if you are talking about a trash 120hz monitor but I think if you check the monitor section you will see that high-end displays like the 950d have very accurate colors and the viewing angles are not that bad at all. Add to that the overall smoothness that you get in everything from maximizing windows to dragging stuff across the screen, the fluid way that everything moves in games, and the fact that 1080p is a perfect resolution (not too big or too small) for most people and 120hz monitors definitely make a case for themselves. True, hi-res screens are beautiful to look at but I wouldn't trade the way my monitor "feels" for anything.

And your point about needing a lot of gpu power to benefit from 120hz is kind of moot in this thread as I doubt many of the guys with 7970's or 680's are having trouble pushing 120fps in most games...
post #502 of 679
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I know your a mod and all but I don't buy that you were having multiple BSODs with your CF setups. Having owned both a CF and SLI setup and never ever experiencing a BSOD with either my thinking is that user error was involved somewhere along the line.
Flickering textures happen in some games but generally that is fixed with CAP updates and is an issue reserved for new releases. Crash to desktops every 20 minutes sounds like a huge stretch as well. I've experienced that with both SLI/CF and single card setups but never 'every twenty minutes'. If I was crashing every twenty minutes I'd go online and find something to fix it. If you can find me an example of a game that currently suffers from the "crashing to desktop every twenty minutes" in SLI/CF bug though I'd love to hear you out.
CF/SLI is not an easy way to go and that's not what I'm trying to say. People on these forums however have a tendency to blow issues wayyy out of proportion. The reality is that the biggest issue you will encounter with either setups is some games simply not supporting them.

New drivers sometimes messes up SLI/XFIRE setups. It's also game dependant. Other factors come into play as well.
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New drivers sometimes messes up SLI/XFIRE setups. It's also game dependant. Other factors come into play as well.

Of course. Things come up. I just haven't personally experienced it anywhere near as badly on either my 480s or 5850s. Lucky me I guess!
    
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The whole point in this thread is to emphasize that 5-15% isnt actually 5-15%, given that the clock on the GTX 680 is 20% higher than the 7970, but their OC limit on a decent air or liquid cooler is within error of eachother.

Dude you keep spewing misinformation to try and justify that the 7970 is better.

Learn to do math before you make claims.

1. The 7970 has 25% more cores
2. The 7970 has a 384 bit vs 256 bit
3. 7970 is priced 10% higher

Now to your math lesson:

The 680 is clocked 8% higher, 12.5% with the turbo boost, NOT 20%!

Did you also complain when the 6990 was clocked 27% higher than the GTX 590 @ stock, and 31% higher when unlocked?
Edited by 2010rig - 3/26/12 at 7:39pm
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post #505 of 679
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Originally Posted by 2010rig View Post

Dude you keep spewing misinformation to try and justify that the 7970 is better.
Learn to do math before you make claims.
1. The 7970 has 25% more cores
2. The 7970 has a 384 bit vs 256 bit
3. 7970 is priced 10% higher
Now to your math lesson:
The 680 is clocked 8% higher, 12.5% with the turbo boost, NOT 20%!

You should do correct math before accusing others of not doing so:
The GTX 680 clocks up to a maximum slightly above 1100 MHz at full turbo from what reviews indicate.
Clock frequency: 1100/925 = 1.189189 which is roughly 20% higher clocks when comparing boost and 9% when comparing stock vs stock.
Amount of ALUs: 2048/1536 = 1.33333 which is roughly 33% more cores
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You should do correct math before accusing others of not doing so:
The GTX 680 clocks up to a maximum slightly above 1100 MHz at full turbo from what reviews indicate.
Clock frequency: 1100/925 = 1.189189 which is roughly 20% higher clocks when comparing boost and 9% when comparing stock vs stock.
Amount of ALUs: 2048/1536 = 1.33333 which is roughly 33% more cores

Every review I've seen states the turbo boost is 1058 so that's the value I"m going by!

192

925/1006 = .92

1536/2048=.75

We'll have to get a 2nd non-biased opinion on which formula to go by.

If you want to ignore percentages the 7970 has 512 more stream processors, and is priced $50 HIGHER These value you can't ignore.
Edited by 2010rig - 3/26/12 at 8:05pm
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After looking at the Benchmarks I really couldn't see jumping from the 7970 to the 680. What i think will be interesting is if NVIDIA can release the original 680 the Gk100 before the 8970. And the pricing of the GK100.

I always wonder, but am too lazy, who makes more profit on consumer GPUs AMD or NVIDIA?
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post #508 of 679
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Originally Posted by 2010rig View Post

Dude you keep spewing misinformation to try and justify that the 7970 is better.
Learn to do math before you make claims.
1. The 7970 has 25% more cores
2. The 7970 has a 384 bit vs 256 bit
3. 7970 is priced 10% higher
Now to your math lesson:
The 680 is clocked 8% higher, 12.5% with the turbo boost, NOT 20%!
Did you also complain when the 6990 was clocked 27% higher than the GTX 590 @ stock, and 31% higher when unlocked?

You cant really, compare an nvidia and an amd card core for core....
post #509 of 679
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After looking at the Benchmarks I really couldn't see jumping from the 7970 to the 680. What i think will be interesting is if NVIDIA can release the original 680 the Gk100 before the 8970. And the pricing of the GK100.
I always wonder, but am too lazy, who makes more profit on consumer GPUs AMD or NVIDIA?

I think gk110 or 100 or whatever isnt released because its not finished yet
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You cant really, compare an nvidia and an amd card core for core....

But it should be compared clock for clock? rolleyes.gif

The fact that the 680 has 512 less stream processors and at worst case scenario trades blows with the 7970, that tells me Kepler is the more efficient architecture. But that's just me.
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