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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
  • 37% (130)
    AMD 7970
  • 62% (214)
    GTX 680
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post #531 of 679
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

I really don't care at all about the reviews to be honest. I've been checking out the 680 CLub here on OCN and there are a lot of aggravated guys over there...

Third day in for some of us and first day myself. We haven't even got our feet wet. I just got mine and starting to do some learning. It's a different OC method than before.

Check back when the 7970 Club launched and you'll see a lot of aggravated people too. I've been following it and belive me they are not problem free either. Good luck though Majin your a good egg on OCN and I'm sure will teach those guys what their doing wrong or how to push it even further. They've got a good guy on their team. thumb.gif

Seems the new 28nm fabrication is across the board a new creature. Technically the 680 can't push as many volts with two six pin over an eight and six.

New flavors are coming out soon of the same GTX 680's with more phase power along with eight and six pin connectors.

EVGA's line up in descending order.


EVGA GTX 680 CLASSIFIED - 8+8 Power Design + 14 Power Design + OC BIOS Mode


EVGA GTX 680 FTW - 8+6 Power Design + 8 Phase PWM Design
EVGA GTX 680 FTW 4GB + Backplate - 8+6 Power Design + 8 Phase PWM Design



EVGA GTX 680 SC SIgnature - 8+6 Power Design + 5 Phase PWM Design
EVGA GTX 680 SC Signature + Backplate - 8+6 Power Design + 5 Phase PWM Design
EVGA GTX 680 SC Signature 2 - Dual Fan Design + 8+6 Power Design + 5 Phase PWM Design

Also if there's a way to disable voltage lock we haven't figured it just yet. Well back to my system I just set it up at stock. Going to see what's the GPU Boost do and figure this out.

Personally I even with my GTX 580 I over clock as far as I can before voltage tweak and leave it there 24/7. So I'm not too concerned.
post #532 of 679
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Originally Posted by Arizonian View Post

Third day in for some of us and first day myself. We haven't even got our feet wet. I just got mine and starting to do some learning. It's a different OC method than before.
Check back when the 7970 Club launched and you'll see a lot of aggravated people too. I've been following it and belive me they are not problem free either. Good luck though Majin your a good egg on OCN and I'm sure will teach those guys what their doing wrong or how to push it even further. They've got a good guy on their team. thumb.gif
Seems the new 28nm fabrication is across the board a new creature. Technically the 680 can't push as many volts with two six pin over an eight and six.
New flavors are coming out soon of the same GTX 680's with more phase power along with eight and six pin connectors.
EVGA's line up in descending order.

EVGA GTX 680 CLASSIFIED - 8+8 Power Design + 14 Power Design + OC BIOS Mode EVGA GTX 680 FTW - 8+6 Power Design + 8 Phase PWM Design
EVGA GTX 680 FTW 4GB + Backplate - 8+6 Power Design + 8 Phase PWM Design EVGA GTX 680 SC SIgnature - 8+6 Power Design + 5 Phase PWM Design
EVGA GTX 680 SC Signature + Backplate - 8+6 Power Design + 5 Phase PWM Design
EVGA GTX 680 SC Signature 2 - Dual Fan Design + 8+6 Power Design + 5 Phase PWM Design
Also if there's a way to disable voltage lock we haven't figured it just yet. Well back to my system I just set it up at stock. Going to see what's the GPU Boost do and figure this out.
Personally I even with my GTX 580 I over clock as far as I can before voltage tweak and leave it there 24/7. So I'm not too concerned.

Thanks man! I still remember the good old days of the 580 OCing club! It really kills me to leave the Nvidia camp but I can't condone the locked down nature they implemented with the 680. I'm sure non-reference cards will fix this eventually but I have the opportunity to get 28nm Lightnings right now so I had to take it! When the 680 Lightnings show up I may have a hard time turning them down.

Btw, I still think the 680 is probably the better card, I just want to try something new...
post #533 of 679
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Originally Posted by 2010rig View Post

Dude you keep spewing misinformation to try and justify that the 7970 is better.
Learn to do math before you make claims.
1. The 7970 has 25% more cores
2. The 7970 has a 384 bit vs 256 bit
3. 7970 is priced 10% higher
Now to your math lesson:
The 680 is clocked 8% higher, 12.5% with the turbo boost, NOT 20%!
Did you also complain when the 6990 was clocked 27% higher than the GTX 590 @ stock, and 31% higher when unlocked?

This thread is really about who is the performance king, without price being a factor, although ultimatley it is one. And the gtx 680's max stock turbo clock is 1110 mhz, while the 7970 is clocked at 925 mhz , so thats a 20% difference.
    
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I'm not sure what you're saying, can you please clarify? You're saying a 7970 with a 45% over clock will match a GK110 which is 50% faster than a GK104. You do realize the GK110 will over clock as well right and will still be slower than a stock GK110 by a significant margin if the 50% claims are true.

Yes i expect the atomic 7970s to further overclock, but not by much, so this will give Nvidia the advantage. I am guessing a stock GTX 685/GTX 780 GK110 GPU will perform roughly equivalent to an OCd Sapphire Atomic 7970 @ 1400 mhz. But of course the Nvidia can overclock. Thus why i gave it the edge!
    
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post #535 of 679
This reminds me of car arguments "Well your car has a supercharger and mine doesn't!".

Run what you brung... If you put your card up against another card claiming huge performance gains then you better well back it up... smile.gif

There are no excuses about it having less cores, voltage, price, doesn't matter. All the talk was this card was going to smash AMD when actually it was just a slight beneficial gain in SOME areas.

This is not a biased opinion, but facts. If you claim to be the best, you better prove it.
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This reminds me of car arguments "Well your car has a supercharger and mine doesn't!"

That wasn't a very good simile. Computer components are even remotely relevant to automotive engineering.
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I'm betting I can get BF3 up over 120fps on Ultra with my new 7970's considering I already go over 100fps with my 580's...

I doubt it =/ thats whats holding me back from the 7970 and im leaning towards the 680 atm becuase while amd do make amazing cards there never optimized for games sadly. The 580 pritty much = the 7970 in bf3 atm. Amd cards are bettter in general and usually do better in all the fancy benchmarks but nvidia always do better in games sadly.
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Does video qaulity for the GTX 680 count to reign 'king' with even more innovation?


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Read more: http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-s-new-dawn-for-kepler-is-on-the-way/15344.html#ixzz1qKP1oHnP

Can you just imagine a game like BF 4 looking that real?
post #539 of 679
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I'm betting I can get BF3 up over 120fps on Ultra with my new 7970's considering I already go over 100fps with my 580's...
I doubt it =/ thats whats holding me back from the 7970 and im leaning towards the 680 atm becuase while amd do make amazing cards there never optimized for games sadly. The 580 pritty much = the 7970 in bf3 atm. Amd cards are bettter in general and usually do better in all the fancy benchmarks but nvidia always do better in games sadly.

the 7970 =/= gtx580 in BF3. Even at stock the 7970 is a good 10-20fps higher, slightly Overclocked and its about the same as a gtx680

For the Price I would go gtx680, But once a price drops happens on the 7970 they would be a killer card to have.

A gtx680 and 7970 both can not handle BF3 ultra @ 120fps, You will still need sli/cf to achieve this goal.
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Yes in theory the 7970 is alot better but when it comes to actuall performance of 7970/7950 in bf3 thats not the case its pritty much the same some times less than a 580, check out the 7970/50 owners thread and you will see that so many of them have problems in bf3. If bf3 is your primary game it would be silly to go amd atm as its a nvidia optimized game.
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