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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
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    AMD 7970
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    GTX 680
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post #541 of 679
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Yes i expect the atomic 7970s to further overclock, but not by much, so this will give Nvidia the advantage. I am guessing a stock GTX 685/GTX 780 GK110 GPU will perform roughly equivalent to an OCd Sapphire Atomic 7970 @ 1400 mhz. But of course the Nvidia can overclock. Thus why i gave it the edge!

That doesn't make sense to me... The 7970 at those speeds are barely faster than a 680 when over clocked which, itself is barely faster than a stock 680, so how will a 7970 over clocked match a GK110 which is rumored to be 50% faster(re: 50% better performance) than a GTX 680?
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post #542 of 679
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To clarify

7970 @ 1400 mhz = GK110 @ stock

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post #543 of 679
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To clarify

7970 @ 1400 mhz = GK110 @ stock

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I want w/e you are smoking redface.gif Because as of the moment 680>7970 in games, Yes when overclocked slight advantage but you are saying its going to match a card 40 percent better than a 680 which is already better than a 7970?! WOW obvious fan is obvious
I dont care how well the drivers improve the performance over time, it will be the 7990 and GK110 comparison.
post #544 of 679
You seem to be really into the clock speed, which really doesn't matter.

4 Monitors, CUDA, Phyx and the Green Team drivers are more than enough for me to say that the 680 is a better card, not to mention in North America the 680 is cheaper (And to the best of my knowledge it's still cheaper than the 7970 anywhere else when comparing reference to reference)

That aside I really thing Nvidia failed hard here. In terms of RAW computing power the 7970 is the clear winner. I really think that this is something more like what a 670 should have been honestly. I expected more.

Although I can't really say that I dislike either card, for gaming and gaming alone I'd say the 680 comes out on top; however the 7970 seems like the better choice while doing other computing tasks.

*fingers crossed for GK110*
post #545 of 679
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You seem to be really into the clock speed, which really doesn't matter.
4 Monitors, CUDA, Phyx and the Green Team drivers are more than enough for me to say that the 680 is a better card, not to mention in North America the 680 is cheaper (And to the best of my knowledge it's still cheaper than the 7970 anywhere else when comparing reference to reference)
That aside I really thing Nvidia failed hard here. In terms of RAW computing power the 7970 is the clear winner. I really think that this is something more like what a 670 should have been honestly. I expected more.
Although I can't really say that I dislike either card, for gaming and gaming alone I'd say the 680 comes out on top; however the 7970 seems like the better choice while doing other computing tasks.
*fingers crossed for GK110*

Completely agree with the first part...

In terms of compute performance, judging by the specs, IMO this was supposed to be the 660. FP performance has been cut 3x that of the 580, and twice of the 560. Of course the ROP's, and 256 bit bus are a dead giveaway that this was meant to be a 660 as well.

I'll post this here again for those who missed it.

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post #546 of 679
Ordered mah self a 680 biggrin.gif
Debating whether or not I should have spent the extra 100 on the 7970 lightning which is currently IN STOCK on newegg. Oh well... The most graphically demanding game I play is Skyrim anyways lol and the 680 performs miracles on that game. All in all, I think I'll be happy with my decision. Both cards are great (though overpriced) :|
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Anyone who says the 580 gives you the same performance in BF3 as a 7970 is either willfully ignorant or does not know what they are talking about. The 7970 catches up to the 680 overclocked in BF3. The only way you can make that statement is if you ignore every BF3 benchmark ever made.
    
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Put my second 680 in before taking the computer apart to install the new PSU. The first 680 was easily doing 1225mhz core, forgot the exact max stable clock but it was 1275mhz I believe (got the computer with the info saved apart upstairs, on the laptop now). But the second 680 is a bit better. 1.31Ghz stable in 3dMark11, 1.3Ghz stable in Heaven and every other bench run (Metro, Crysis, Just Cause 2, Arkham City, BF3 multiplayer). And it stays below 61C too! I have room to take the fan down a bit. So...two cards and one is stable at 1275mhz and the other is stable at 1310mhz. This really isnt that bad for the max voltage, which is 1.175. And what are the AVERAGE overclocks for the 7970s, 1250mhz? My cards do that at 1.175 @ 59C. 7970 has further to go to get to 1250mhz, but the 680 has a lower max voltage. So...kinda evens out. I got 2 cards and they both very easily and with cool temps exceed 1250mhz. So maybe the 680 doesn't allow for huge overclocks, but it's on par with the 7970 in that regard. And I know 7970s go higher, that's why I said average. 680s go higher too. Cherry-picked for reviews they were hitting 1350mhz.

So, yeah, performance being all over the place for both cards depending on which benches you look at, it's pretty clear that.... Nvidia= * +3D, +PhysX, +drivers, +four monitors on one card, +FXAA, +efficiency/low-temps, +Adaptive V-Sync (BF3 looks so much more amazing->no tearing AND no lag/stuttering!), super-quiet fan until 70% speed * = king.gif
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One of the great things about 28nm. Overclock like beasts, and run cooler. Technology is strange.
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Put my second 680 in before taking the computer apart to install the new PSU. The first 680 was easily doing 1225mhz core, forgot the exact max stable clock but it was 1275mhz I believe (got the computer with the info saved apart upstairs, on the laptop now). But the second 680 is a bit better. 1.31Ghz stable in 3dMark11, 1.3Ghz stable in Heaven and every other bench run (Metro, Crysis, Just Cause 2, Arkham City, BF3 multiplayer). And it stays below 61C too! I have room to take the fan down a bit. So...two cards and one is stable at 1275mhz and the other is stable at 1310mhz. This really isnt that bad for the max voltage, which is 1.175. And what are the AVERAGE overclocks for the 7970s, 1250mhz? My cards do that at 1.175 @ 59C. 7970 has further to go to get to 1250mhz, but the 680 has a lower max voltage. So...kinda evens out. I got 2 cards and they both very easily and with cool temps exceed 1250mhz. So maybe the 680 doesn't allow for huge overclocks, but it's on par with the 7970 in that regard. And I know 7970s go higher, that's why I said average. 680s go higher too. Cherry-picked for reviews they were hitting 1350mhz.
So, yeah, performance being all over the place for both cards depending on which benches you look at, it's pretty clear that.... Nvidia= * +3D, +PhysX, +drivers, +four monitors on one card, +FXAA, +efficiency/low-temps, +Adaptive V-Sync (BF3 looks so much more amazing->no tearing AND no lag/stuttering!), super-quiet fan until 70% speed * = king.gif

I'm happy your happy man. One of the great things about 28nm is how cool the cards run now. With my 1260 OC the highest I've ever seen on my card was 75 degrees at 40% fan speed on a reference cooler. The aftermarket coolers are going to make these cards so cool/quiet you won't even be able to hear them.

As an aside I'd like to point out that adaptive vsync is only different then regular vsync in that it disables vsync when you drop under 60FPS. It does that basically to eliminate input lag but it also causes tearing. With two 680s though at 1080p I don't think you will ever actually use the feature. Has got to be a good feeling. thumb.gif
    
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