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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
  • 37% (130)
    AMD 7970
  • 62% (214)
    GTX 680
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post #551 of 679
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Originally Posted by jtom320 View Post

I'm happy your happy man. One of the great things about 28nm is how cool the cards run now. With my 1260 OC the highest I've ever seen on my card was 75 degrees at 40% fan speed on a reference cooler. The aftermarket coolers are going to make these cards so cool/quiet you won't even be able to hear them.
As an aside I'd like to point out that adaptive vsync is only different then regular vsync in that it disables vsync when you drop under 60FPS. It does that basically to eliminate input lag but it also causes tearing. With two 680s though at 1080p I don't think you will ever actually use the feature. Has got to be a good feeling. thumb.gif

Thank you thumb.gif But even when v-sync is on with the 680 and keeping the fps steady at 85fps in BF3, there's still much less stuttering/input lag. It seems incredibly more responsive now, and there's no tearing when it drops below 85fps and adaptive v-sync disables itself. So, that's awesome, never know when the second one is in tomorrow though. Again, that coulda been from micro-stuttering from 570 SLI, so I'll have to see if BF3 is still as smooth as it is now when the second 680 is in there.

But yeah, thanks again, definitely enjoying the cards. I guess when it comes down to it, if you want the best performance there's some games you need a 7970 for and there's some you need a 680 for. I personally do not want to cross over to AMD simply because I don't see enough of a performance increase to make it worth it, because it's true, they are pretty close, so regardless of Nvidia's reasons for not releasing GK110, we got what we got and it seems a lot less like a "King" and lot more closer to the 7970 than everyone originally thought. But yeah I won't cross over because gains aren't big enough to justify giving up what im comfortable with and the features I like (I keep thinking about that stone-pillar video demo for physx, good LORD that was beautiful. Can you imagine the destructable environments we're gonna have 5 years from now?? biggrin.gif ).
Edited by dph314 - 3/27/12 at 7:07pm
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post #552 of 679
I was coming from 580 Lightnings and had to make a decision 680 vs 7970. I basically went with the 7970 just because of the Lightning being available. I am enough of an MSI Lightning fanboy that I switched GPU manufacturers just to get the newest Lightning! Honestly though I think there is no wrong choice this generation as both cards are so close....
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Thank you thumb.gif But even when v-sync is on with the 680 and keeping the fps steady at 85fps in BF3, there's still much less stuttering/input lag. It seems incredibly more responsive now, and there's no tearing when it drops below 85fps and adaptive v-sync disables itself. So, that's awesome, never know when the second one is in tomorrow though. Again, that coulda been from micro-stuttering from 570 SLI, so I'll have to see if BF3 is still as smooth as it is now when the second 680 is in there.
But yeah, thanks again, definitely enjoying the cards. I guess when it comes down to it, if you want the best performance there's some games you need a 7970 for and there's some you need a 680 for. I personally do not want to cross over to AMD simply because I don't see enough of a performance increase to make it worth it, because it's true, they are pretty close, so regardless of Nvidia's reasons for not releasing GK110, we got what we got and it seems a lot less like a "King" and lot more closer to the 7970 than everyone originally thought. But yeah I won't cross over because gains aren't big enough to justify giving up what im comfortable with and the features I like (I keep thinking about that stone-pillar video demo for physx, good LORD that was beautiful. Can you imagine the destructable environments we're gonna have 5 years from now?? biggrin.gif ).

You don't have to justify it to me dude you got an amazing card. With prices where they are right now I do agree the 680 is definitely the better buy anyway.

Now me personally I actually like both manufacturers. I like the fact that AMD gives you more support for SSAA/MSAA options in Dx11 but then again I like the fact that Inspector lets you use SGGSAA in games. I think AMDs AA applications are slightly ahead right now though but this would only matter to someone like me anyway. I am an IQ junkie so whichever one gives me more options in that regard I'll go with all things being equal.

Both of you need to make sure you download Inspector/RadeonPro. Both these programs will make your lives easier and allow you to set IQ profiles for each game. (Sorry if you already knew this) Inspector really opens up your AA options with Nvidia based cards and Radeon Pro *really* helps with crossfire. Every now and then a game will come along that doesn't support CF but with a little bit of luck you'll be able to force it with RP. So yeah both of em are great things.

Anyway you'll both like the cards good luck to you with em.
    
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Agreed thumb.gif

I'm just pissed that I can't hit 50fps in Heaven all maxed. I got 49.9 twice!! mad.gif

Edit: Not really directed towards you or anyone, just spouting off my rants in the same post biggrin.gif
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All comes down to drivers in my opinion. I would love either card since it has more memory then my 1.5GB 580s.
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I dont really care about this but ill just say when the 680 comes out with more memory on it, it will smoke the 7970 in all categories. The only reason the 7970 does better in a few high res benchmarks is because of larger memory capacity.
    
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Both of you need to make sure you download Inspector

I can't remember if I tried Inspector a while ago or not, I just looked at the interface though in a pic. Seems kinda cool, but does it do anything that the Nvidia Control Panel, GPU-Z, and Precision can't do?
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I can't remember if I tried Inspector a while ago or not, I just looked at the interface though in a pic. Seems kinda cool, but does it do anything that the Nvidia Control Panel, GPU-Z, and Precision can't do?

Yes in order to enable AA on a lot of DX10/11 games (YOu know how most games use FXAA/MLAA/post-process crap nowadays) you will have to find "driver bits" online. Not really sure what they do exactly but you type a set of numbers in and it allows you to use better AA in modern games (SGGSAA which looks a lot like supersampling, can blur some games, easy to remedy with LOD tweaks). Best thing to do is google all this because it would be impossible for me to explain it all in one post! If you like messing with IQ settings on a pretty high level you will like Inspector.

Here is an example for Mass Effect 3. The fields you see here you will type in under the Mass Effect profile. Inspector is insanlely powerful if you use it.

Antialiasing Compatibility = 0x080100C5 (Mass Effect, Mass Effect II)
Antialiasing Mode = Override any application settings
Antialiasing Setting = 4xMSAA.
Antialiasing Transparency Multisampling = Enabled
Antialiasing Transparency Supersampling = 4x Supersampling
Anisotropic Filtering Mode = User-defined / Off
Anisotropic Filtering Setting = 16x
Texture Filtering Quality = High Quality.

Keep in mind that Mass Effect 3 does not support Multi-sample AA out of the box but Inspector will let you force it with the right compatibility codes. The Nvidia control panel will not do this automatically.
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I dont really care about this but ill just say when the 680 comes out with more memory on it, it will smoke the 7970 in all categories. The only reason the 7970 does better in a few high res benchmarks is because of larger memory capacity.

I don't think that is accurate at all. From what I have seen so far, at max clocks these two cards are almost identical in terms of performance at any resolution. I really don't think there is a wrong choice this time around...
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It's obviously not true. Anyone paying any attention at all to the OC'd benches knows that neither of these cards smokes the other one. The 680 wins some and the 7970 wins some. The 7970 wins are definitely not memory related either. You are either read up on this or you're not. The great thing about numbers isn't that they don't leave much room for opinion on these type of things. If the 680 smoked it in everything but VRAM intensive Apps we would all know it.
    
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