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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
  • 37% (130)
    AMD 7970
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    GTX 680
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post #71 of 679
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Originally Posted by jellis142 View Post

If the GTX 680 is $500 and the HD 7970 is $500...

If this was the case, I would probably buy the 7970 because of more vram. Being a single gpu user, I do not have to worry about the SLI/Crossfire flaws. Both GPUs are efficient & both will provide excellent gaming performance.
If the 7970 was $20 cheaper than the 680, I'll buy it without hesitation wink.gif
Edited by drBlahMan - 3/22/12 at 10:57pm
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Yeah I said it before, but these guys wouldn't listen and the review sites haven't been fair to the HD 7970. When OC'd both cards are equal.

But AMD screwed themselves over...they underclocked the 7970.
post #73 of 679
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Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

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You cant just show one pic and make it seem like the 7970 is destroying the 680, that is only one game, of which no one plays/cares about.

 

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Nvidia couldnt get away with charging over 549 USD for this card.
    
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Originally Posted by Cannon19932006 View Post

There are rewards for being the first out of the gate you know, why should we handicap them for that?

For the same reason that people seem to think you need to match clocks when comparing the cards. If people want to declock the 680 or overclock the 7970 to consider it fair just because the 680 has a faster stock clock, then why shouldn't we also compare them both with Day 1 drivers.

Seems fair to me. Bottle line these cares are within ~5% of each other after overclocked. Most people will go with the cheaper card, which is currently the 680.
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Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

Nvidia couldnt get away with charging over 549 USD for this card.

I still would of bought this card at $550, infact that's about what I was suspecting to pay. I'm sure the cards still would of sold out, just a little slower.
Edited by Murlocke - 3/22/12 at 11:12pm
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I want to see clock per clock benchmarks, theyre not even out there.. im surprised.
Clock for clock will only matter if their max OC are the same, if a card can go higher with stock voltage/cooling, why would you restrain it in order to match the other one? Max OC vs Max OC on reference cards should be the real comparison.
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It will be a big fiasco when the 7990 is released in 1-2 weeks, with up to +100% performance of the gtx 680. I actually thought the gtx 680s performance would be higher than what it is. Nvidia's turbo boost is just better to 1058 mhz+. And apparently it continues to work even when you oc your GPU to high mhz, so most ocing benchmarks dont put this into consideration. If you can somehow disable turbo boost and run the gtx 680 at the exact same clocks as a stock 7970, the difference in performance between them will vanish (averaged).

100% wha?
That's not how turbo and OC works on the new gtx 680, you will do it by offset and that will increase turbo performance - true, but the frequency displayed in the benchmarks with the 680 OC'd are the tubo boost ones, 1300mhz isn't the base clock, it's the target clock (turbo boost included unless you set the power target to a lower level forcing the board to throttle down it's clock.
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Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

Nvidia couldnt get away with charging over 549 USD for this card.


Actually they could, if AMD keeps the 549 price (which they wont) then nvidia could charge $575 for the 680 and still get away with it because it is besting the 7970 right now.

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You cant just show one pic and make it seem like the 7970 is destroying the 680, that is only one game, of which no one plays/cares about.

LL

I'd like to see a clock vs. clock in bf3! The 7970 did gain ground on the 680 in that chart, and it is still clocked behind it.
 
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It will be a big fiasco when the 7990 is released in 1-2 weeks, with up to +100% performance of the gtx 680. I actually thought the gtx 680s performance would be higher than what it is. Nvidia's turbo boost is just better to 1058 mhz+. And apparently it continues to work even when you oc your GPU to high mhz, so most ocing benchmarks dont put this into consideration. If you can somehow disable turbo boost and run the gtx 680 at the exact same clocks as a stock 7970, the difference in performance between them will vanish (averaged).

I missed this but I can't pass this up. You say you aren't a fanboy and biased and yet you make that absurd comparison. You come across as extremely biased to me, even if you claim you aren't. You don't compare a GTX 680 to a 7990. You would compare a GTX 690 to it. You can't compare a single GPU card to a dual GPU card of the same generation and expect the single GPU to have a chance.
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I'd like to see a clock vs. clock in bf3! The 7970 did gain ground on the 680 in that chart, and it is still clocked behind it.

Then I'd like to see Day 1 drivers on the 7970 when comparing to the 680's Day 1 drivers. You can't criple stock features of a card just because you don't like the results.
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7870 for the budget-ish win. At least when the price tames a bit. I'm a second tier kinda guy. Maybe high third.
    
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