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Why not just call it exactly what it is. The market jumped on "HD" and "XHD" and all that other crap, why not call it by its technical name? I.e. 2560x1600 would be WQXGA, and so on.
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post #22 of 55
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Bothers me that news writers are sheep too. Why not say, high-res...
Does that mean my IPS panel is a retina display?

No. "retina display" has nothing to do with resolution. Its about pixel density. You could have an 8k by 4k resolution screen, but it wouldn't be considered a "retina" display unless it was under 40" or so.

Windows 7 is designed for 96 DPI screens, while most (HDPI) smartphones are designed for around 240 DPI. If you were to use a 240 DPI monitor on Windows 7 or set your display scaling to 96 DPI in Android using build.prop then the text would be nearly impossible to see.

I just hope Microsoft's attempt at display scaling isn't as ham-fisted as their current version. What people don't realize is that Windows 7 already lets you switch between 96, 120, 144, and 192 DPI, and the results are absolutely horrible.
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I'd call it IRIS Display... nice ring to it. There trademarked.

IRIS is SIRI backwards.
    
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No. "retina display" has nothing to do with resolution. Its about pixel density. You could have an 8k by 4k resolution screen, but it wouldn't be considered a "retina" display unless it was under 40" or so.
Windows 7 is designed for 96 DPI screens, while most (HDPI) smartphones are designed for around 240 DPI. If you were to use a 240 DPI monitor on Windows 7 or set your display scaling to 96 DPI in Android using build.prop then the text would be nearly impossible to see.
I just hope Microsoft's attempt at display scaling isn't as ham-fisted as their current version. What people don't realize is that Windows 7 already lets you switch between 96, 120, 144, and 192 DPI, and the results are absolutely horrible.
IRIS is SIRI backwards.

Coming from someone with a 1440p monitor I concur. Windows handles DPI horribly... it's one thing OSX does perfectly cool.gif
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*palm to forehead*
Then why not TM the word 'the' ?
Com on man .. think about it ... been around in the medical field forever they can not coin a word like that ... APU has not been a word really anywhere till AMD made it ...

Lmao, if Apple can patent "A rectangular cellular device with rounded edges" then you can patent/TM anything.
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really?
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Windows 8 tablets and hybrids, which are expected to hit the market later this year, will feature the stunning Retina display just like its rival Apple's latest iPad
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You obviously didn't read. Where does it say MS is using a ” retina” display?...
It doesn't. It says ”retina-like” display...which everyone knows is a stupid term to mean greater than 1080x1920.

Another case of someone reading just the headline and then commenting LIKE A BOSS,

ps it says "MS is using a 'retina' display" right in the OP
post #26 of 55
I wish people would stop calling it "retina" which is purely marketing and is function of viewing distance AND resolution. I'm typing on a 21-inch, 1080p screen and I can't see the pixels because I'm sitting 2' away.
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Apple doesn't own any of the hardware they're using to build these do they? Like the chips are all from people like intel and whatnot. So the display is manufactured for apple by someone else using someone elses technology right?
So why would apple own a term to describe one of the pieces of hardware in their ipad? If anyone can own something as stupid as the word retina for a product, wouldn't it be the company that owns the technology used to produce the display?
Apple designs their own SoCs, and it's likely they designed the retina display and then handed the specifications over to whoever could produce enough of them. (It's also possible that Apple paid someone to design the retina display, but considering that they have their own engineers, I'd say it's more likely they did the design.)

>>>>>

To anyone against the term "retina", it's irrelevant what it is. The fact is, it's short, and describes a very high PPI display, or more literally a display which has a high enough PPI that from a normal viewing distance you can't distinguish an individual pixel.

And displays will need more, and more PPI, until the point where you can't see a single red pixel on a white display. Then it's small enough.
Edited by steelbom - 3/25/12 at 6:38pm
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They say retina because consumers are stupid. If you simply say, "High Resolution Display", many consumers will scratch their heads and ask "Well is it better than a Retina Display?"
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post #29 of 55
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Apple designs their own SoCs, and it's likely they designed the retina display and then handed the specifications over to whoever could produce enough of them. (It's also possible that Apple paid someone to design the retina display, but considering that they have their own engineers, I'd say it's more likely they did the design.)

Apple designs their SoCs like I "design" my dinner. All they're doing it taking a bunch of premade chips and putting them on their own board. The CPU is designed by ARM, the GPU is designed by Imagination Technologies, the DAC is made by Cirrus Logic.

So they get Samsung to build the CPU that ARM designed and the GPU that PowerVR designed, along with a few other chips designed by other companies (except an signal processor designed by a company they bought). Then tell LG (pretty sure it was them) to build them a 3.5" high density display, which have been around for a while now and are nothing new(mostly limited to niche markets like UMPCs). Then they send it all off to Foxconn along with the only thing they actually did design, the chassis, which was the work of the Knight Commander, Sir Jonathan Ive.

*I should probably explain that my "dinner" usually consists of some form of frozen meat, some frozen potatoes usually in the shape of fries, all dumped onto a baking pan and thrown into the oven for 30 minutes.
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They say retina because consumers are stupid. If you simply say, "High Resolution Display", many consumers will scratch their heads and ask "Well is it better than a Retina Display?"

It has nothing to do with stupidity. The vast majority of the consumer market isn't knowledgeable about pixel density and display resolutions, so terminology is derived to make it simpler for them. That's like calling people stupid because they bought an HDTV. OMG they're so stupid! Watch them scratch their heads and wonder if it's better than 480p lolz!
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