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The only problem I can see with these crazy high resolution/pixel density is someone creatinf content to fill it, scaling some content to fit these resolutions does not seem like a good solution

That's what the new iPad does. Its icons, text, etc, are all the same size as what it would be on an iPad 2. Scaling everything is the whole point behind these high-res/DPI displays, it's not necessarily to fit more content on the screen.
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No they trademarked it.
woo development woo

Soon I'll have to mention Retina™ when talking about my patients eye disease.
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Neither of those slates you mentioned have been released, only announced.

They've been extensively demo'd at CES and given out to the media to review though. Think of it as one of nVidia's "soft launches".

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And the Droid's 260 PPI display is good, but it's still short of being "retina".

The Droid's screen is higher density than the iPad 3's. rolleyes.gif
    
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They've been extensively demo'd at CES and given out to the media to review though. Think of it as one of nVidia's "soft launches".
The Droid's screen is higher density than the iPad 3's. rolleyes.gif

Last time I checked 264 > 260. Also, demos mean nothing as it is not the final consumer product.
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You're taking what I said out of context. I'm pretty much agreeing with you, and you would see that if you bothered to comprehend what I said. I'm saying the journalist calls it retina for that exact reason. They know nothing about display resolutions, so these terms are coined to make it easier for them, which is exactly what you said.
It's nothing like calling people stupid for buying an HDTV. Again, comprehend what you read.

Settle down, slugger. First of all, lets talk about the definition of "context." I took what you said 100% in context. The context in this case is a statement made by you in response to the OP of this thread. Here, again, is what you said:

"They say retina because consumers are stupid. If you simply say, "High Resolution Display", many consumers will scratch their heads and ask "Well is it better than a Retina Display?"

Care to contextualize that further? No? Okay, now that you know what "in context" means, let's look at your post again. You called consumers stupid. Presumably because, if told a display is "high resolution," they'd still have questions about said display's actual resolution. Not sure about you, but "high resolution" isn't specific enough for me, either. At least with the term "Retina Display," I have an idea just how high the resolution is. So do consumers. Everyone wins.

Where you went wrong in your first post is in saying that consumers are stupid. I guess I thought my response made this clear, but I'll give it to you once more: it has nothing to do with "stupidity." Pixel density/display resolution isn't exactly common knowledge. It's a very specialized field, in fact, and it's absolutely necessary to make it accessible to the everyday consumer. Soccer moms don't know jack about pixel density, but they sure do love buying iPads.

Any questions?
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Settle down, slugger. First of all, lets talk about the definition of "context." I took what you said 100% in context. The context in this case is a statement made by you in response to the OP of this thread. Here, again, is what you said:
"They say retina because consumers are stupid. If you simply say, "High Resolution Display", many consumers will scratch their heads and ask "Well is it better than a Retina Display?"
Care to contextualize that further? No? Okay, now that you know what "in context" means, let's look at your post again. You called consumers stupid. Presumably because, if told a display is "high resolution," they'd still have questions about said display's actual resolution. Not sure about you, but "high resolution" isn't specific enough for me, either. At least with the term "Retina Display," I have an idea just how high the resolution is. So do consumers. Everyone wins.
Where you went wrong in your first post is in saying that consumers are stupid. I guess I thought my response made this clear, but I'll give it to you once more: it has nothing to do with "stupidity." Pixel density/display resolution isn't exactly common knowledge. It's a very specialized field, in fact, and it's absolutely necessary to make it accessible to the everyday consumer. Soccer moms don't know jack about pixel density, but they sure do love buying iPads.
Any questions?

There is more than one definition of "context." What I was saying is that you took my statement literally, meaning that I thought consumers were actually stupid as in "lacking intelligence or common sense." What I was saying was that they would take the term "Retina Display" and equate it to a specific resolution, one that was created by Apple or something like that. I don't know about you, but if you were to put two tablets, one with a spec sheet next to it that said "High Resolution Display - *insert resolution of screen here with number of PPI*" and an iPad next to it that simply said "Retina Display", the average consumer wouldn't know which tablet had the better screen with a higher PPI and resolution. They need terms made for them that "dumbify" things to make them understand them more I guess.

I know pixel density isn't common knowledge, but display resolution should be in today's modern world. With everyone pushing High Definition content and almost forcing such things on you, people should really educate themselves on what they're consuming.

Also, there was a post that said Retina Display is a term Apple created to advertise their product's specific display resolution/pixel density, and it shouldn't be used on non-Apple products. Completely agree.
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They've been extensively demo'd at CES and given out to the media to review though. Think of it as one of nVidia's "soft launches".
That's great, but they still can't be purchased. Apple could've demoed the iPad 3 three months ago, or even before that.
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The Droid's screen is higher density than the iPad 3's. rolleyes.gif
You hold a slate a lot closer than you do a smartphone, which is why 264 PPI is enough for a slate.
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Last time I checked 264 > 260. Also, demos mean nothing as it is not the final consumer product.

The DPI of the new iPad is 263.92, the DPI of the Droid is 264.77.
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That's great, but they still can't be purchased. Apple could've demoed the iPad 3 three months ago, or even before that.

Apple demod the original iPad a few weeks after CES 2010. If they could have demo'd the new iPad three months ago why didn't they show it instead of iBooks in January? I would think that with everyone else in the industry showing off their latest tech Apple would hit back with something bigger than an unsupported proprietary extension to the ePUB format. The delay almost certainly has to do with shipping with ICS. They probably could have launched it last year if they were willing to stick with Honeycomb.
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You hold a slate a lot closer than you do a smartphone, which is why 264 PPI is enough for a slate.

I'm guessing you mean farther, which isn't even remotely the case, since they're held at roughly the same distance. You might need to hold your phone a few inches from your face to see the tiny 3.5" screen, but that's not the case with Android phones.
    
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Apple demod the original iPad a few weeks after CES 2010. If they could have demo'd the new iPad three months ago why didn't they show it instead of iBooks in January? I would think that with everyone else in the industry showing off their latest tech Apple would hit back with something bigger than an unsupported proprietary extension to the ePUB format. The delay almost certainly has to do with shipping with ICS. They probably could have launched it last year if they were willing to stick with Honeycomb.
They didn't "demo" it, they announced it and released it roughly four weeks later. The iPad 2 was released two weeks after it was announced, and the iPad 3 only a week after it was announced. They could've shown a working prototype probably six months ago, or even before that.

The A5X chip's manufacturing date goes all the way back to January btw.
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I'm guessing you mean farther, which isn't even remotely the case, since they're held at roughly the same distance. You might need to hold your phone a few inches from your face to see the tiny 3.5" screen, but that's not the case with Android phones.
Correct, I mean further. I doubt many hold a 9.7 inch display as close as they do with even a 4.5 inch display. You just don't need it as close when it's larger. A few inches from my face? My 4S is usually 12-14 inches from my face.
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A few inches from my face? My 4S is usually 12-14 inches from my face.

 

I tried holding mine at that distance, and text is completely unreadable...
 

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(apparent size at ~12 inches away)

 

I usually hold mine in landscape mode about 5 inches away from my face. I could zoom in but it would slow down my reading since I'd have to continuously scroll over or down.

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