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I have a Nikon D5100 and use the AF-S 50mm f/1.4G lens to take portrits for the wife's blog. We do all of the photos outside, and some times there are shadows. I am looking for a flash to fill shadows in. I have taken a few photo classes but I really don't know much about flashes and lighting. Should I get an off camera flash or a hot shoe flash such as the Nikon SB-700. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Have you looked at something as simple as a reflector (even a piece of poster board works) to fill the shadows? Works extremely well and provides a nice soft fill light for your shadow side.

See this link for an example:
http://www.elizabethhalford.com/editing/photographing/shooting-backlit-101-pt-5-using-reflectors/

much cheaper than a flash if you have the sun for light anyway and IMO a better fill light.
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i 2nd the reflector suggestion. makes for excellent fill light when shooting outdoors with the sun
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I have a Nikon D5100 and use the AF-S 50mm f/1.4G lens to take portrits for the wife's blog. We do all of the photos outside, and some times there are shadows. I am looking for a flash to fill shadows in. I have taken a few photo classes but I really don't know much about flashes and lighting. Should I get an off camera flash or a hot shoe flash such as the Nikon SB-700. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The SB-700 IS an off camera flash as well as a hot shoe flash. The D5100 does not have commander mode, so you will need some wired or wireless flash triggers if you want to use it off camera. If you're outside in bright light, using TTL-BL on an SB-700 would be great for filling in shadows while keeping backgrounds lit with ambient light. A reflector as others mentioned could also help in this area.
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If you don't know much about flashes, and you don't want to lug much around, get the SB-400. It's like $120 and works flawlessly; the only thing you get with flashes three times as expensive is more power and more complexity, neither of which I have found necessary in two years with my SB-400.
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If you don't know much about flashes, and you don't want to lug much around, get the SB-400. It's like $120 and works flawlessly; the only thing you get with flashes three times as expensive is more power and more complexity, neither of which I have found necessary in two years with my SB-400.

You also can't use it off camera nor does it work in TTL-BL mode which is pretty much essential for outdoor flash use.
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You also can't use it off camera nor does it work in TTL-BL mode which is pretty much essential for outdoor flash use.

There are ways to use flashes off camera with out Nikon's wireless system. Granted to get full TTL functionality it gets pricey but I have a $15 set of radio triggers that work flawlessly for product shots. $15 ebay triggers and a $75.00 285HV makes a cheap and powerful setup. All manual but the majority of the time its set it and forget it.
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There are ways to use flashes off camera with out Nikon's wireless system. Granted to get full TTL functionality it gets pricey but I have a $15 set of radio triggers that work flawlessly for product shots. $15 ebay triggers and a $75.00 285HV makes a cheap and powerful setup. All manual but the majority of the time its set it and forget it.

You can't use the $15 triggers with the SB-400 because it has no manual mode. It's basically a beefier on board flash. The cheapest off camera option would be wired tether. Otherwise you're going to spend $300 so that you can use a very limited $100 flash off camera. Picking up an SB-700 (or older SB-600) is a better option as it's more powerful and has greater usability than an SB-400
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You also can't use it off camera nor does it work in TTL-BL mode which is pretty much essential for outdoor flash use.

You're telling me I can't get good exposures for fill-flash in outdoor use with an SB-400? That's funny since that hasn't been my experience; it actually seems to work exceptionally well. Keep in mind most people don't even think about getting into complicated studio lighting, and realistically won't even get filters or gels; they just want something which works well, and they'll be shocked just by bouncing light up instead of flashing it straight ahead.
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You're telling me I can't get good exposures for fill-flash in outdoor use with an SB-400? That's funny since that hasn't been my experience; it actually seems to work exceptionally well. Keep in mind most people don't even think about getting into complicated studio lighting, and realistically won't even get filters or gels; they just want something which works well, and they'll be shocked just by bouncing light up instead of flashing it straight ahead.

that is not what he said...

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You also can't use it off camera nor does it work in TTL-BL mode which is pretty much essential for outdoor flash use.

which does not mention anything about about exposure, gels, or bouncing light or even pointing straight at people.
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