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post #11 of 38
on 1440x900 will be a huge bottleneck with Q6600 3.0GHz
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Have you tried to go further, oc-wise, with that Q6600..?

In order to keep my 1 GTX460 pegged at 90+% in BF3 multi-player at 1440x900 res I have to be at at least 3.65 GHz.

I have tried: 3.4, 3.5, 3.6, 3.7, 3.8 and ended up running 24/7 suicide voltages for a shaky 3.9 GHz for a while but, this thing gets so hot my Megahalems with 2 Yate Loons at full tilt can't handle the heat and it'd overheat and shut down; so, I'm back at 3.8 GHz and it runs BF3 fine--my 460 stays in the 90's during online play.

Thing is, in the "big" 64-man servers, when the action gets intense (like when you are in a tank and a chopper is baring down on you firing rockets) all the explosions will cause the min fps to drop kinda low--that's the Q6600 struggling to keep up--and that's when gpu useage drops to the high 70's-80's. No matter how fast you get that Q6600, it's minimum frames per second will always be slower compared to the newer gen stuff--and minimum fps is a big deal when dealing with game performance, that's where you get slow downs and stuttering.

The "cheap" option? Do what I'm doing: oc that Q6600 as far as it'll go and ride it til it dies. These chips are friggin tanks so don't think you are going to kill it by riding down on it. People on this forum will attest to the durability of these old things.

1) Buy your 7850
2) Grab a good cpu cooler,good fans and some MX4 TIM for the Q6600
3) Overclock the cpu as far as it'll go
4) Profit for a while
5) Begin the upgrade process

Good luck.
 
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Yeah, I now have a 24" monitor with 1080*1920 resolution :S

So I still don't know of it's worth it or not, im getting mixed opinions and dont know what to think.
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Originally Posted by nachomaster View Post

Yeah, I now have a 24" monitor with 1080*1920 resolution :S
So I still don't know of it's worth it or not, im getting mixed opinions and dont know what to think.

You will be fine at 1080p
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Trust me i have posted in many GPU BOTTLE-NECK threads. At that resolution you will not come across a bottle-neck. A bottle-neck is when the cpu does not have enough power to run the gpu at 100% usage. So the guy who shifted from your processor to the intel 2500k naturally got better frame-rates not owing to his card but owing to the fact that the intel processor is better than the amd one you have,so the extra frame-rates came from having a better processor and not because his card was previously bottle-necked. Sometimes people think that they are bottle-necked just because when they play a game the gpu usage is not 100% they think that they are bottle-necked but the arent,it could be the game which is not properly optimized which causes frame rates to constantly drop and fall. All these need to be taken into consideration before coming to any conclusion. So you will be fine with that card. Just overclock your processor to 3.6ghz and keep the cpu-nb frequency as high as possible:)
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Originally Posted by jason387 View Post

Trust me i have posted in many GPU BOTTLE-NECK threads. At that resolution you will not come across a bottle-neck. A bottle-neck is when the cpu does not have enough power to run the gpu at 100% usage. So the guy who shifted from your processor to the intel 2500k naturally got better frame-rates not owing to his card but owing to the fact that the intel processor is better than the amd one you have,so the extra frame-rates came from having a better processor and not because his card was previously bottle-necked. Sometimes people think that they are bottle-necked just because when they play a game the gpu usage is not 100% they think that they are bottle-necked but the arent,it could be the game which is not properly optimized which causes frame rates to constantly drop and fall. All these need to be taken into consideration before coming to any conclusion. So you will be fine with that card. Just overclock your processor to 3.6ghz and keep the cpu-nb frequency as high as possible:)

Are you kidding? This post is sooooo full of factological errors...

First of all,the guys who shifted to 2500k didn't have an AMD CPU before that.
Second, even if he had, The fact that his FPS rise absolutely means that the GPU was bottlenecked by the previous CPU. "FPS raise because of better processors" = GPU bottleneck from the old processor.

To the OP - even if there is a bottleneck, would you care for the difference between 90FPS and 110FPS?
Bottom line - everything will run great, even if there is a bottleneck, you won't notice it in gameplay, and that is what matters, unless you are a crazy bencher smile.gif
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Just clock it up as high as you can..get new video card..and enjoy :thumb.gif: You will be happy..I went from a 4870 to a 5850 :eek.gif:
Man it was soo much better..twice as good imo ph34r-smiley.gif
That's what overclocking is about..getting the most out of your hardware wink.gif
CPU like yours could run for another couple of years.
 
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I wouldnt worry to much about it since your not on a dual core, as I noticed a massive bottle neck on a gtx570 when I had a E6550 cpu overclocked to 3.2 ghz. And it wasn too bad when I plugged my Q6600 in at 3.6ghz even tho it wasnt as good as what a 2500k cpu can do it was good enough for maxing everything I had ran back around beginning of 2011.

But if you doing only 1080p at worst you might have to turn down some settings but you will be doing alot better then with your current card. And try to get your cpu overclocked as much as possible since that helps alot. And yes your fps wont be as high as they can be but over 60 is pointless if your monitor is 60hz screen..
 
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post #19 of 38
The 7850 is basically an improved version of the 6950. I made the same upgrade from a 4850 and I can tell you the difference is huge. Your q6600 will bottleneck it but it should still make a big improvement.

It might be time for you to ramp up the fans and push that cpu to 3.6ghz.
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I'm facing this problem too with my AMD athlon II x4 635 at between 3.25ghz to 3.44ghz which scores around 3.75 to 3.84 points in cinebench 11.5
The higher OC runs fine for 45minutes playing infantry and tank but crashes in 1 minute when I'm flying helicopter.

planning to get the cheapest 7850 and OC it so that bf3 can run Ultra no-msaa on 1080p at nearly 60fps smoothly.

This bottleneck issue bothers me very much because I don't want to be stuck on 40+fps knowing my graphic card is capable of 60.
Doesn't feel right to get less than what I pay for.

Any comments on how I can improve this ?
Currently playing low detail with radeon 5670, if the 7850 plan doesn't work out I'm probably gonna skip it and wait for overhaul in 3 years.
Edited by krabs - 3/24/12 at 9:11am
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