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post #11 of 80
Wait for EC eVo, the EC2 i had once was very well built, but i didnt like the sensor or the glossy sides, the evo has none of those faults, i think
post #12 of 80
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Just put masking tape over the sensor hole to reduce LOD. If manufacturers reduce LOD at the sensor, it compromises the capabilities of the sensor.

Recall somebody saying that they had to get new skates for their mouse because the tape kept rubbing on the mousepad. nerdsmiley.png
post #13 of 80
Logitech g9x.

I run it on a cloth steel series pad and it is flawless. I searched for a long time to find this one. at first it felt weird but now it feels like second nature to grip it.
    
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post #14 of 80
My first logitech G9x lasted me ~2 years with 12-15 hours a day heavy usage. My second is still going strong.

I've not had a more comfortable mouse, infact after buying one my 2 best friends also bought them after playing with it.
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post #15 of 80
I think the G400 is an excellent mouse for the money. smile.gif
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post #16 of 80
Trackball??

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=trackball

I have the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman takes a little getting used to but I like it, great to sit back with the Projector on
plonk it on your leg and your off. No mousemat or picking it up and relocating it all the time.
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Also of note the g9x has 2 different grips, adjustable weight and a great chord.
    
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post #18 of 80
G9x is good, but the OP said he does not want acceleration at all. G9x/G700/Xai/Sensei/etc. have slight sensor acceleration that may bother some people depending upon their sensitivity, surface, and play style. It will likely not bother the majority of people but some people complain about it.

OP, what DPI and sensitivity do you play at, what game, what is your mouse pad (and size), what is your preferred grip style, how large is your hand, etc?

G400 is a good mouse to look at, especially if you play at 800 DPI and palm grip. Also you could try Deathadder with tape mod.
Edited by Riou - 3/23/12 at 1:04pm
post #19 of 80
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G9x is good, but the OP said he does not want acceleration at all. G9x/G700/Xai/Sensei/etc. have slight sensor acceleration that may bother some people depending upon their sensitivity, surface, and play style. It will likely not bother the majority of people but some people complain about it.
OP, what DPI do you play at, what game, what is your mouse pad (and size), what is your preferred grip style, how large is your hand, etc?
G400 is a good mouse to look at, especially if you play at 800 DPI and palm grip.

400-800 around that dpi. Low to medium sens player. I have a fairly oversized thin cloth mousepad, but I can play on more or less anything as long as they're L/XL+. I play BF3, will be playing CS:GO, various MMORPGs and singe-player games and some other multi-player shooters. I guess the only thing that I don't actively play is RTS. I can adapt to claw and palm just fine. I have what's considered average sized hands tongue.gif. G400 does look good!
post #20 of 80
"High" lift off distance technically isn't an issue or a fault with the mouse, though it's understandable that you prefer lower lift off to suit your desired playing style. The LED and lens configuration on most mice are designed to be compatible on multiple surface types and colors.

It's certainly possible to lower this for a specific pad via firmware, but you either sacrifice compatibly, tracking quality, or IPS all around. There are exceptions such as the early 1800 CPI deathadders, but only after countless updates provided by Razer:

Assuming you want optical and a decent max IPS range, you only have a few options:

- If you like a specific mouse, best thing you might be able to do is swap to a specific hard surface. 3.5mm can turn into 1.2mm with the right pad.

Cloth surfaces:

- Logitech G400: Lift off distance is around 2.5mm on most of my surfaces. (Darker colors)

Con: The higher range of this sensor over 800 CPI is interpolated down from 3600. Cursor quality isn't as optimal as you would expect on a native 1800 CPI mouse for example. The custom lens also distorts cursor quality a little more than the recommend lens designed for the sensor.

- Zowie AM and EC1/2 EVO: custom lens magnification. Apparently very low lift off distances on darker cloth, but doesn't work on all surfaces (specifically white or very light)

Con: The "custom lens" noticeably distorts cursor quality at higher CPI settings. (If thats an issue to you).

- Wait for a fixed Laser variant. (Might happen if the supplier gets enough pressure)
Edited by Skylit - 3/23/12 at 1:21pm
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