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Thinkpad T61 to T61p Conversion?

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Haven't been on here in forever. Wow.

Anyway, recently I bought a beat-up T61 for cheap, all the internals were good, but the outside isn't so pretty, I'm working on that.

I just found out that it has the X3100, which is ****, I was really hoping for at LEAST the 8400, but after doing some research, I found out that the T61p comes out with a 8600GT, which I really want now because I could do some decent gaming on that. (Half Life 2, Crysis on low/medium, GTA IV and SA, Skyrim maybe, etc)

So now I'm wondering, could I put a T61p 14.1 inch motherboard in the T61's case? Would it work? I know where to get the motherboard for around 100 bucks, so I'm wondering if I should even try.
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I'm sure that you will at least need a new heat sink since the 8600gt will need better cooling and they often have different heats inks with dedicated GPU laptops compared to their non-dedicated cousin.
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Not to dissuade you too much, but the T61 and T61p both used workstation graphics. These usually get ~20% worse gaming performance than the consumer equivalent. Also, the 8000M series graphics cards are pretty much guaranteed to die (Nvidia got sued over them dying so often).

..So I wouldn't bother, personally. If you just want it for a holdover for a few months or a year, it might be fine... but there's no telling if the motherboard was reflowed right before sending it out - a reflow might last 6 months - 1 year.. and need to get reflowed again. But also, there are only 4:3 14" T61p's. So of course if your T61 isn't 4:3 you'd have to verify that the motherboards are the same size.
 
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Originally Posted by jrbroad77 View Post

Not to dissuade you too much, but the T61 and T61p both used workstation graphics. These usually get ~20% worse gaming performance than the consumer equivalent. Also, the 8000M series graphics cards are pretty much guaranteed to die (Nvidia got sued over them dying so often).
..So I wouldn't bother, personally. If you just want it for a holdover for a few months or a year, it might be fine... but there's no telling if the motherboard was reflowed right before sending it out - a reflow might last 6 months - 1 year.. and need to get reflowed again. But also, there are only 4:3 14" T61p's. So of course if your T61 isn't 4:3 you'd have to verify that the motherboards are the same size.

I know, but it's still better than these ****ty X3100, hell, my other laptop with an ATI Xpress 1100 is much better.

They aren't the 8000M series, but very similar, maybe the problem doesn't occur in these? Maybe I'll just end up buying a 8800gt ultra and throwing it in my inspiron 530 or something. I would really like to have some decent GFX on a laptop though.
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Originally Posted by wamthesuperwam View Post

I know, but it's still better than these ****ty X3100, hell, my other laptop with an ATI Xpress 1100 is much better.
They aren't the 8000M series, but very similar, maybe the problem doesn't occur in these? Maybe I'll just end up buying a 8800gt ultra and throwing it in my inspiron 530 or something. I would really like to have some decent GFX on a laptop though.

The Quadro 570M is based on the 8600M. It certainly affects it (the issue was with overheating; the "fix" was to have the fans constantly running.. not that it completely fixed the problem). If you want it, do it - the only real issue is reliability.

Not to get too far off topic, but if you wanted a cheap card for your desktop, the AMD 6570 is pretty fast, easily in 8800GT territory; and some are ~$40 after rebate. The Nvidia GT 430 is pretty good as well, and that's about $25 after rebate. The AMD 4850 is probably the best value for a used card, around $50 or so and it has a much lower TDP than the 8800 Ultra, and a little more performance.
 
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I'll take a look at a 4850. Thanks.
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C2D T7100 X3100 with modded drivers (Games decent) 2Gb DDR2 160GB SATA 
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