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As far as I can tell, people on either side of this argument fall into two categories: Those who have tried 120hz / Those who havent tried 120hz.

Disclaimer: 3rd category - those without eyes.
post #102 of 142
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As far as I can tell, people on either side of this argument fall into two categories: Those who have tried 120hz / Those who havent tried 120hz.
Disclaimer: 3rd category - those without eyes.

That about sums it up. Except for a 4th category... those who have tried them and got a bad monitor or one of the worst brand of monitors.

Also a 5th category... those who didn't have the GPU to push it or had other OS problems. I've seen that a lot too.

Then they stereotype every monitor of that class as being crap just because their one experience wasn't what they expected it to be. But mostly I think it comes down to who has tried it and who hasn't. That's the majority I'm sure.
post #103 of 142
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That about sums it up. Except for a 4th category... those who have tried them and got a bad monitor or one of the worst brand of monitors.
Also a 5th category... those who didn't have the GPU to push it or had other OS problems. I've seen that a lot too.
Then they stereotype every monitor of that class as being crap just because their one experience wasn't what they expected it to be. But mostly I think it comes down to who has tried it and who hasn't. That's the majority I'm sure.

No, the majority is people claiming things out of the blue but everything else is clear. People purchase a "cheap" TN panel for $50 and see people recommending 120hz because its "much better" (It's better but only in specific cases like high end gpus, some games you play etc.) They feel bad because they're missing out on the people with their "amazing" 120hz panels and they start hating with claims like "the human eye can only see 27fps" which is nonsense as anything under 50hz gets choppy as fudge for me. Then the 120hz elitists reply and you have an argument. Thankfully the /strict rolleyes.gif/ rules here stop this thumb.gif.

If you have high end gpu's, you don't want an ips panel, you have the cash, go for 120hz.
    
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Not that I want to cheap out but Hoes the Acer 120hz monitor??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009222


or is the Asus just that good??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236092

Heard of Ben Q but are they good??

I need to be edumacated in 120hz since i m a neewwbb biggrin.gif
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Not that I want to cheap out but Hoes the Acer 120hz monitor??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009222
or is the Asus just that good??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236092
Heard of Ben Q but are they good??
I need to be edumacated in 120hz since i m a neewwbb biggrin.gif

That are all pretty decent. I have the Asus, but I got it refurb so it was pretty cheap on amazon. I like it because its glossy.
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From what I gather Acer is one of the worst to get. But you may buy an Acer and be perfectly happy with it. It likely really depends on the person. Unless the monitor is just plain crap or a factory dud.

For one example, some people claim to notice as little as 10ms of input lag while I've seen some others say they can't notice 30ms. Just like people who rip on TN panels... I see nothing wrong with my TN panel even when changing my viewing angle slightly. Maybe I have a great TN... Maybe the position I have it mounted in is optimal for viewing whether seated forward or reclined (I have a high desk and the monitor is also raised up a few inches)... maybe I'm not as sensitive to color distortions... or maybe I'm just not as nit-picky about colors.

However, I DO notice a difference between 60Hz and 120Hz. Whatever the case, I'm happy with it and wouldn't trade it for any other monitor. What more can you ask for?

Personally, I wouldn't buy an Acer. But that's me. Asus and BenQ are both known to be good. Whether they are the best or not is purely opinion. I like Planar.
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I like Planar.

link to said monitor??

I have an Asus monitor right now 60hz 1920X1080 and love the quality its a matte screen tho.
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post #108 of 142
Ok science time:

14 FPS is the lowest threshold in which you observe smooth motion as opposed to a slideshow (US Air Force)
100 - 114 FPS is the upper threshold of motion detection. (NASA / US Air Force)

50 - 60 Hz is the threshold is which you cannot tell the difference between a pulsing light pulsing at 60 times a second and a constant lightstream. This is why TV standards and video displays are at 50 and 60 Hz.

10ms is the lowest threshold in terms of motion detection. In the words, it takes your eyes 10 milliseconds for you to even register something has moved.

Also as stated, even though a lot of movies are at 24 / 30 FPS, they factor in motion blur in post production. This is why if you interpolate these movies to 100 / 120 Hz, you can get a 'soap opera' look.

Read and stop the myths mmm ok thanks:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/monitors/display/lcd-parameters.html

http://human-factors.arc.nasa.gov/techareas/tech_faq/download/tech_faq_watson.pdf
Edited by chinesekiwi - 3/25/12 at 10:43pm
post #109 of 142
The Acer's overdrive needs to be deactivated to prevent text and ghosting issues in service menu and it has a little over 1 frame of input lag (18ms) which kind of defeats the purpose of getting a 120hz display. The GD245HQ is the European model name for the gd235hz

Example of the text issue caused by the overdrive
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As an owner of the S27A950D, S23A700D, 2233rz and Asus VG236H I found the Asus superior and I won't be replacing it any time soon, though it will be flanked by a Crossover and S27A850D thumb.gif
http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/gadgetry-electronics-discussion/9014-asus-vg236h-120hz-3d-monitor-review.html

Also if you like watching movies the Asus's ASCR (Dynamic Contrast) works. It dims the blacks from 0.13cdm/2 (@120cdm/2 brightness) to 0.05cdm/2 in dark scenes without drastically reducing the brightness just like a CRT. The ASCR function is neither distracting nor seizure inducing like most other displays.

If one wants matte display and don't care about 3D Vision 2 or the extra features the BenQ has the Planar is the best matte 120hz
http://3dvision-blog.com/4244-review-of-the-23-planar-sa2311w-3d-vision-ready-lcd-monitor/
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Here it is on Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824016168

But it's been out of stock for a while. Not sure if it's coming back or not. I hear Tigerdirect has it and I also heard that Wal-mart carries it (made me laugh). I'm sure there are many other places that stock it too. Check your favorite shopping places for PC stuff.

It's one of the cheaper monitors right now but it's a good monitor. I think it was around $280 the last price quote I heard. I paid almost $450 for it when I got mine and I don't regret it. But it would have been better at $280. wink.gif
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