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Originally Posted by Phantom_Dave View Post

That about sums it up. Except for a 4th category... those who have tried them and got a bad monitor or one of the worst brand of monitors.
Also a 5th category... those who didn't have the GPU to push it or had other OS problems. I've seen that a lot too.
Then they stereotype every monitor of that class as being crap just because their one experience wasn't what they expected it to be. But mostly I think it comes down to who has tried it and who hasn't. That's the majority I'm sure.

I could not honestly see the difference between 120Hz and 60Hz. I had both a high quality screen (Asus VG236H) and the GPUs to run it (SLi 580s), so I didn't fall into any of your categories. In my opinion the entire 120Hz fad is just a placebo effect.
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post #112 of 142
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I could not honestly see the difference between 120Hz and 60Hz. I had both a high quality screen (Asus VG236H) and the GPUs to run it (SLi 580s), so I didn't fall into any of your categories. In my opinion the entire 120Hz fad is just a placebo effect.

Dunno what sort of reply you expect... I can see the difference, bigtime.

Telling me there's no difference is like telling me that a black crayon is white. I would have to assume that you are color blind in that case. I have a 1200p 60Hz monitor right next to my 1080p 120Hz monitor and the difference is night and day between the two.
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Originally Posted by tx-jose View Post

Not that I want to cheap out but Hoes the Acer 120hz monitor??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009222
or is the Asus just that good??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236092
Heard of Ben Q but are they good??
I need to be edumacated in 120hz since i m a neewwbb biggrin.gif

I have the Acer. Worth the money IMO. I like it, and all I really play is CS1.6 and DoTA2.
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post #115 of 142
Haha, I bought mine not too long ago. ASUS VG236HE. Set it to 120Hz refresh in Nvidia control panel, loaded up HL2, proceeded to FREAK OUT at how awesome 120Hz is. mmmm so smooth
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I could not honestly see the difference between 120Hz and 60Hz. I had both a high quality screen (Asus VG236H) and the GPUs to run it (SLi 580s), so I didn't fall into any of your categories. In my opinion the entire 120Hz fad is just a placebo effect.

Lol. I have 2 8800 GTS' and I can see the difference. Just load up HL2 or something and play it set at 60Hz, then go back and do it again in 120Hz. There is a HUGE difference. Swirl your view around in a circular motion and see the difference... no screen tearing, incredibly smooth, motion blur is AWESOME
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Ok science time:
14 FPS is the lowest threshold in which you observe smooth motion as opposed to a slideshow (US Air Force)
100 - 114 FPS is the upper threshold of motion detection. (NASA / US Air Force)
50 - 60 Hz is the threshold is which you cannot tell the difference between a pulsing light pulsing at 60 times a second and a constant lightstream. This is why TV standards and video displays are at 50 and 60 Hz.
10ms is the lowest threshold in terms of motion detection. In the words, it takes your eyes 10 milliseconds for you to even register something has moved.
Also as stated, even though a lot of movies are at 24 / 30 FPS, they factor in motion blur in post production. This is why if you interpolate these movies to 100 / 120 Hz, you can get a 'soap opera' look.
Read and stop the myths mmm ok thanks:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/monitors/display/lcd-parameters.html
http://human-factors.arc.nasa.gov/techareas/tech_faq/download/tech_faq_watson.pdf

Cool. I always wondered why the soap operas my mom used to watch moved so much smoother and more fluid-like than the rest of the TV shows I saw way back when... I always thought something was wrong with my eyes when watching them, lol
Edited by vikingsteve - 3/25/12 at 11:21pm
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I asked this guy who works at Best Buy if they had any 120Hz monitors. He said it wouldn't make a difference in 2D unless I had a Big HDTV 40" or over. I laughed in his face and told him he didn't know what he was talking about. (didn't really mean to be rude, just a burst of reaction) Like others have said... night and day. There is no comparison. I guess a very crude way of explaining what my eyes see is this. Day time dramas on your regular 60Hz TV's You ever notice how it is filmed differently? When I saw Transformers 2 on the 120Hz for the first time, it looked like that. Very real, very touchable.
 
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100 - 114 FPS is the upper threshold of motion detection. (NASA / US Air Force)

Depends on the content you're looking at. My GDM-F520 CRT is capable of doing 170hz. At that point, moving the cursor around on the desktop will still show extremely apparent choppiness, instead of the trail being a constant smooth line.

Therefore, this limit you set here is false until you assign a certain condition on it (such as motion blurred video)
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50 - 60 Hz is the threshold is which you cannot tell the difference between a pulsing light pulsing at 60 times a second and a constant lightstream.

This claim can be ignored until you explain the two of the following examples and others like them
  • Why CRT monitors show extermely apparent flicker at anything below 80hz for most people. That is a kind of pulsing light, no?
  • Why people can notice the flicker of fluorescent lamps which flicker at 50hz.

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10ms is the lowest threshold in terms of motion detection. In the words, it takes your eyes 10 milliseconds for you to even register something has moved.

This claim makes no sense at all. tongue.gif

It's like saying that since you take 8 hours to drive from location A to location B, procrastinating the trip for an extra 8 hours won't cause any extra delay.
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100 - 114 FPS is the upper threshold of motion detection. (NASA / US Air Force)

Depends on the content you're looking at. My GDM-F520 CRT is capable of doing 170hz. At that point, moving the cursor around on the desktop will still show extremely apparent choppiness, instead of the trail being a constant smooth line.

Therefore, this limit you set here is false until you assign a certain condition on it (such as motion blurred video)
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50 - 60 Hz is the threshold is which you cannot tell the difference between a pulsing light pulsing at 60 times a second and a constant lightstream.

This claim can be ignored until you explain the two of the following examples and others like them
  • Why CRT monitors show extermely apparent flicker at anything below 80hz for most people. That is a kind of pulsing light, no?
  • Why people can notice the flicker of fluorescent lamps which flicker at 50hz.

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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post

10ms is the lowest threshold in terms of motion detection. In the words, it takes your eyes 10 milliseconds for you to even register something has moved.

This claim makes no sense at all. tongue.gif

It's like saying that since you take 8 hours to drive from location A to location B, procrastinating the trip for an extra 8 hours won't cause any extra delay.

De-Zant going on his "what is the max FPS the human eye perceive rant" again redface.gif

Listen to De-Zant though, he has a very good knowledge of monitors (heck he is the displays editor afterall).
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Depends on the content you're looking at. My GDM-F520 CRT is capable of doing 170hz. At that point, moving the cursor around on the desktop will still show extremely apparent choppiness, instead of the trail being a constant smooth line.
Therefore, this limit you set here is false until you assign a certain condition on it (such as motion blurred video)
This claim can be ignored until you explain the two of the following examples and others like them
  • Why CRT monitors show extermely apparent flicker at anything below 80hz for most people. That is a kind of pulsing light, no?
  • Why people can notice the flicker of fluorescent lamps which flicker at 50hz.
This claim makes no sense at all. tongue.gif
It's like saying that since you take 8 hours to drive from location A to location B, procrastinating the trip for an extra 8 hours won't cause any extra delay.

Honestly though, Big D knows what the **** he's talking about.

Y'all should listen close.

But, trolls will be trolls, and nerds will be nerds.

Regardless, OP, I hope you found out what you were looking to learn. I think you should rephrase your question to: Why do you like your 60/120hz IPS/TN, and which model do you have?

There will be bias, but at least it will be more... fruitful for yourself.
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Depends on the content you're looking at. My GDM-F520 CRT is capable of doing 170hz. At that point, moving the cursor around on the desktop will still show extremely apparent choppiness, instead of the trail being a constant smooth line.
Therefore, this limit you set here is false until you assign a certain condition on it (such as motion blurred video)
This claim can be ignored until you explain the two of the following examples and others like them
  • Why CRT monitors show extermely apparent flicker at anything below 80hz for most people. That is a kind of pulsing light, no?
  • Why people can notice the flicker of fluorescent lamps which flicker at 50hz.
This claim makes no sense at all. tongue.gif
It's like saying that since you take 8 hours to drive from location A to location B, procrastinating the trip for an extra 8 hours won't cause any extra delay.

Only reason I can think is your GPU is on idle clocks so it isn't putting out anything close to 170hz. Try running something like msi kombustor to get your clocks into 3d mode (just cause everyone has afterburner) and move your cursor around. If it's choppy then your monitor/gpu's broke. Use fraps in aero mode to view your FPS (assuming windows vista/7).
    
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