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Depends on the content you're looking at. My GDM-F520 CRT is capable of doing 170hz. At that point, moving the cursor around on the desktop will still show extremely apparent choppiness, instead of the trail being a constant smooth line.
Therefore, this limit you set here is false until you assign a certain condition on it (such as motion blurred video)
This claim can be ignored until you explain the two of the following examples and others like them
  • Why CRT monitors show extermely apparent flicker at anything below 80hz for most people. That is a kind of pulsing light, no?
  • Why people can notice the flicker of fluorescent lamps which flicker at 50hz.
This claim makes no sense at all. tongue.gif
It's like saying that since you take 8 hours to drive from location A to location B, procrastinating the trip for an extra 8 hours won't cause any extra delay.

Only reason I can think is your GPU is on idle clocks so it isn't putting out anything close to 170hz. Try running something like msi kombustor to get your clocks into 3d mode (just cause everyone has afterburner) and move your cursor around. If it's choppy then your monitor/gpu's broke. Use fraps in aero mode to view your FPS (assuming windows vista/7).

No, it's outputting 170hz alright. (I use the term "choppy" extremely loosely. It's still much smoother than 120hz, but not a perfectly smooth trail). I've tested and proven this before.

Basically, what I mean is just that I have no difficulty seeing the individual frames of the cursor movement when the movement is fast. If it was indeed high enough for me to not be able to notice any difference when set to a higher setting, this would not be the case. I would see one smooth movement of the cursor, not being able to notice the individual frames. This example is intentionally extremely picky and obviously doesn't correlate with some other types of movement, such as heavily motion blurred video. This is why generalizations such as "X FPS is the most the human eye can see" based on a specific type of content don't work.
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No, it's outputting 170hz alright. (I use the term "choppy" extremely loosely. It's still much smoother than 120hz, but not a perfectly smooth trail). I've tested and proven this before.
Basically, what I mean is just that I have no difficulty seeing the individual frames of the cursor movement when the movement is fast. If it was indeed high enough for me to not be able to notice any difference when set to a higher setting, this would not be the case. I would see one smooth movement of the cursor, not being able to notice the individual frames. This example is intentionally extremely picky and obviously doesn't correlate with some other types of movement, such as heavily motion blurred video. This is why generalizations such as "X FPS is the most the human eye can see" based on a specific type of content don't work.

Oh I didn't get you, in that case I fully agree though. I can still pick things out frames if I look close enough but I zone out during gaming to the point that it doesn't bother me.
    
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I SUSPECT that to significantly appreciate the difference some ppl will need to have previously been using their eyes for very fast motion tracking before. E.G I have used a 150hz CRT for playing various fps games competitively, some ppl that are adamant they cant tell the difference may have never really used their eyes for such tasks and therefore cant tell the difference.

Just a guess tho.
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It's just like old CRT FPS gaming. People had to reduce the resolution on their CRTs to get higher Hz. Do people honestly believe someone who is that into gaming would purposely reduce their resolution to get higher Hz if it didn't make any difference at all to them?

This debate is older than LCD monitors. But it's not a debate in my eyes.

I don't know what to say to people who can't tell the difference. Except that there is a difference.
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I SUSPECT that to significantly appreciate the difference some ppl will need to have previously been using their eyes for very fast motion tracking before. E.G I have used a 150hz CRT for playing various fps games competitively, some ppl that are adamant they cant tell the difference may have never really used their eyes for such tasks and therefore cant tell the difference.
Just a guess tho.

I played FPS on a 75Hz CRT for about 5 years, then moved to a 60Hz TN, and then to a 60Hz HDTV. Now I'm at the 120Hz monitor. I think you have a point. The average user won't appreciate 120Hz unless they are used to playing fast games at slow refresh rates. Going from 60 to 120Hz, I noticed the difference immediately, and proceeded to spin my cursor in circles for about 5 minutes and making goofy "ooooooh" noises while admiring what I was beholding smile.gif meanwhile, my sister slowly stepped out of the room, not really understanding what I was ogling
post #126 of 142
Hiya guys...
I have a small question..,
I have 2 x BENQ XL2410T (1 @ 120hz and the other at 60hz) along with 2 x asus 7970
I was wondering if it would be possible to run both monitors at 120hz and (if possible).., how...?
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ive looked everywhere for one of these where can i get one (UK)
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ive looked everywhere for one of these where can i get one (UK)
Got both the 7970 and the BenQ from scan.co.uk...next day delivery...
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I have a 120 HZ monitor,and i WILL NEVER go back to a 60 hz - 75 hz monitor.
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The Acer's overdrive needs to be deactivated to prevent text and ghosting issues in service menu and it has a little over 1 frame of input lag (18ms) which kind of defeats the purpose of getting a 120hz display. [...]

Wow, I have the Acer and can't believe it's 18ms. Source?

(I do have OD off. Maybe that helps.)
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