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Hopefully pencil moding will be an option. smile.gif I figured BIOS editing would be the way to go until I saw that it had a digital signature.
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I know no one uses ATITool anymore but it seems to be working fine for my friends card and my card. Consistent with heaven results... just finds the errors much faster. Infact it's detecting errors that heaven is not...

So +135 core is "not" stable according to ATITool. Not sure what that means coming from a program last updated in 2006.

EDIT: Yea, ATITool shows noticable artifact even at +110 core for me. Anyone else? It's not "erroring" but they are clearly there. Probably not a reliable program... To bad furmark is capped so we can't use it to test 680s...
Edited by Murlocke - 3/24/12 at 9:28pm
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Actually, I see a possible point of pencil-mod/similar interest by looking over Kingpin's "Uncorking Kepler" guide... they're pretty simple ones to spot but I have absolutely no idea if they might work and need to research more. This would up the limit to 1.21v.

EDIT: Hmmmm... on second look I may be wrong. Still, I'll be looking to the best of my (fairly limited) experience. EDIT2: I misunderstood some of the text... we wouldn't need any hardware mod to allow for that. It's >1.22v that requires anything.
Edited by GoldenTiger - 3/24/12 at 9:49pm
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Setting 1.175v in EVGA Precision X still allows me to get 15MHz faster on the core. Without setting that, heaven runs it at 1.164v instead of the 1.175v that i'm seeing everyone else getting. If I set 1.175v in Precision then heaven starts using 1.175. They claim doing this makes OCing worse...

OK so ATITool claims my max overclock is +135/+455. I can confirm Heaven crashes at +140 and not +135.. however it passes with memory at +515 but not +520. Take this what you will but memory problems usually aren't noticable and can slow down performance.

I never thought I would say this but ATITool seems like a most reliable test for the 680. Furmark doesn't load the card due to the drivers limiting the program, but ATITool is not limited since it is so old. Would like some feedback on this from other 680 owners... but ATITool seems to be doing a great job for my friend and I far better than heaven if you want to ensure 100% stability.
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I feel bad for you Murlocke. If it makes you feel any better one of my 480s would do 950 completely rock solid stable and I couldn't get above 875 with the other one. It really is luck of the draw when it comes to overclocking with both processors and video cards. Same thing with my 2500k can't get it stable over 4.5 to save my life.

I can't believe EVGA jacob said they will never have voltage control on these cards. If that's not a huge blow to the OCing community I don't know what is. Considering the really good temps you guys are getting it doesn't look like water would really help anything either if you can't over volt. Seems to me as if Nvidia clocked this thing really high out of the gate. Even if a pencil mod does work it shouldn't be neccessary for your 500 dollar video card.
    
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Setting 1.175v in EVGA Precision X still allows me to get 15MHz faster on the core. Without setting that, heaven runs it at 1.164v instead of the 1.175v that i'm seeing everyone else getting. If I set 1.175v in Precision then heaven starts using 1.175. They claim doing this makes OCing worse...

OK, from what I'm finding... 1.21-1.22v is the max the card will allow without modding however the drivers/tools both limit us to 1.175v currently. This may be "fix"able via software. More than that requires hardware mods to allow the card to even allow it, no matter what software is put in place.
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I feel bad for you Murlocke. If it makes you feel any better one of my 480s would do 950 completely rock solid stable and I couldn't get above 875 with the other one. It really is luck of the draw when it comes to overclocking with both processors and video cards. Same thing with my 2500k can't get it stable over 4.5 to save my life.
I can't believe EVGA jacob said they will never have voltage control on these cards. If that's not a huge blow to the OCing community I don't know what is. Considering the really good temps you guys are getting it doesn't look like water would really help anything either if you can't over volt. Seems to me as if Nvidia clocked this thing really high out of the gate. Even if a pencil mod does work it shouldn't be neccessary for your 500 dollar video card.

My friend's GTX 680 max is now +105 on the core and still +0 on memory. Max fan and TDP at 130%.

How ridiculous is that?
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OK, from what I'm finding... 1.21-1.22v is the max the card will allow without modding however the drivers/tools both limit us to 1.175v currently. This may be "fix"able via software. More than that requires hardware mods to allow the card to even allow it, no matter what software is put in place.

Is this limit anything similar to AMD's initial 1125 limit on the 7970 core? For us all we had to do was add two files to the registry, enable unofficial OCing and good to go. Hopefully a software fix is found for this.
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My friend's GTX 680 max is now +105 on the core and still +0 on memory. Max fan and TDP at 130%.
How ridiculous is that?

Well I don't even know what to say honestly. I don't think anyone expected that. Like I said above hopefully there's some sort of software work around for it. OCing past 1125 on the 7970 has been a huge pain as well if it's any solace. Every time I install new drivers my OC breaks and AB breaks and I have to redo the above steps again. I think people are doing it a new way now but I have not been following it lately.
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If pencil modding actually works, don't forget I was the first to bring it up on OCN. :P

 

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My friend's GTX 680 max is now +105 on the core and still +0 on memory. Max fan and TDP at 130%.
How ridiculous is that?
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If pencil modding actually works, don't forget I was the first to bring it up on OCN. tongue.gif

Did you ever decide what you were going to do as far as the big trade? Just curious.
    
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