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Do you guys think they will let us unlock the 680 voltage in the future or no? I feel like I just wasted so much money on a waterblock and fittings for no reason.......mad.gif

There will never be a voltage bump with the reference designs. Unless someone comes up with a BIOS hack (if even possible) that voids the warranty, don't hold your breath.

Perhaps with non reference versions from vendor down the road that want to take the chance with having to warranty it. A more robust design that can handle an increase in voltage along with compensate 'not' to boost voltage even further when dynamic over clocking takes over. If they don't take that into consideration when an auto over volt takes place, expect a 'pop'.

The auto boost will go from default stock to 1.175v in a heart beat on its own when GPU boost kicks in and required during more stressful moments in graphic rendering.

It's really just the nature of the new 28 nm fabrication on these cards. There's a point where even more voltage doesn't help with overclocking. As the 7970 owners are finding out that after 1.200v they're being limited to the amount of overclock they can get beyond that. Even being underwater and kept cooler isn't helping to boost that core clock any higher and stable. It's the nature of the new beast.

Even if you take into consideration our 1.175 V limit which auto boosts itself we aren't far behind the other card that can over volt. Technology is taking a turn in a different direction and how we view overclocking along with our procedures to get better performance.

It seems putting video cards underwater is more to quiet the fan noise rather than to get a higher overclock anymore. As the water block cards have diminishing returns, look at it as a good way to save some extra money toward a SSD.

We may find with the newer versions coming out with more power phases, cleaner power, kept a little cooler internally on a capacitance level may yield higher clocks. We're just now seeing some of those cards introduced into market and the verdict on those results is not proven yet.

We have seen some volt mods by extremist that prove we can put more voltage to yield better performance but it requires more than an average understanding and is not practical to implement.

Just my two cents of course and view on this.
     
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Do you guys think they will let us unlock the 680 voltage in the future or no? I feel like I just wasted so much money on a waterblock and fittings for no reason.......mad.gif

There will never be a voltage bump with the reference designs. Unless someone comes up with a BIOS hack (if even possible) that voids the warranty, don't hold your breath.

Perhaps with non reference versions from vendor down the road that want to take the chance with having to warranty it. A more robust design that can handle an increase in voltage along with compensate 'not' to boost voltage even further when dynamic over clocking takes over. If they don't take that into consideration when an auto over volt takes place, expect a 'pop'.

The auto boost will go from default stock to 1.175v in a heart beat on its own when GPU boost kicks in and required during more stressful moments in graphic rendering.

It's really just the nature of the new 28 nm fabrication on these cards. There's a point where even more voltage doesn't help with overclocking. As the 7970 owners are finding out that after 1.200v they're being limited to the amount of overclock they can get beyond that. Even being underwater and kept cooler isn't helping to boost that core clock any higher and stable. It's the nature of the new beast.

Even if you take into consideration our 1.175 V limit which auto boosts itself we aren't far behind the other card that can over volt. Technology is taking a turn in a different direction and how we view overclocking along with our procedures to get better performance.

It seems putting video cards underwater is more to quiet the fan noise rather than to get a higher overclock anymore. As the water block cards have diminishing returns, look at it as a good way to save some extra money toward a SSD.

We may find with the newer versions coming out with more power phases, cleaner power, kept a little cooler internally on a capacitance level may yield higher clocks. We're just now seeing some of those cards introduced into market and the verdict on those results is not proven yet.

We have seen some volt mods by extremist that prove we can put more voltage to yield better performance but it requires more than an average understanding and is not practical to implement.

Just my two cents of course and view on this.



Thanks for all that info. +1

This makes me sad/angry though. I think I'm going to put my 680 on ebay and wait for something better to be released.
    
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The Asus DCII can have voltage changed but you need to solder a little jumper on the back to enable it. But its not a "hack" asus clearly writes on the card where to do it. But of course you have no warranty after that. I think we will see some. We are just bearly seeing non reference cards for the 680.

If you guys read the review on here of a guy who volt modded his TFIII 680 he got like an extra 100 mhz (I think 1350ish) and the stock cooler was still keeping it under 70c. So it seems with proper vrm's it can be done.
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I have a Zotac GTX 680, i've never overclocked a graphics card before. Are there any guides anyone could link me to to help me along?

http://www.overclock.net/t/1236894/how-to-680-overclocking-fundamentals
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I have a Zotac GTX 680, i've never overclocked a graphics card before. Are there any guides anyone could link me to to help me along?

This one does a great job of explaining the new cards by Nvidia and the over clocking specifics.

How to: 680 overclocking fundamentals

Start with in small increments and work your way up. Run a 3DMark11 or Heaven Benchmark until you can't run one because of drivers failing. Then you know you went over your cards ability. Back down one increment and try running again. If you pass you'll have found your top over clock.

The final result is the best way to test stability and that's to test it on your favorite game. Pick a more graphically demanding game as you have. If you can game without crashing or freezing after an hour, you'll know you found your all around top clocks for your specific clocks. Everyone's mileage may vary.

Memory on these cards seem to be able to take a lot higher than before. Good starting spot is to up your Memory 200 Mhz and then just work your Core as best as you can until you've hit unstability.

Use GPU-Z to check your specs as you OC.
     
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Didn't you guys see the link in the 680 owner's thread about the Zotac Supreme Edition? Full voltage control up to 1.5v! They hit 1.4Ghz on the core at only 1.35v. I'm so getting that card. Not sure if it's on sale yet. But yeah, might be expensive, it's 12-phase. But damn, 1.5v.
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Didn't you guys see the link in the 680 owner's thread about the Zotac Supreme Edition? Full voltage control up to 1.5v! They hit 1.4Ghz on the core at only 1.35v. I'm so getting that card. Not sure if it's on sale yet. But yeah, might be expensive, it's 12-phase. But damn, 1.5v.

I'd be all over that if there was some sort of way to water cool it. Not sure if I'd upgrade since that is only 75 MHz more core than my current card and .2v more. It will be interesting to see if EVGA's top cards will allow nice voltages like this.
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I'd be all over that if there was some sort of way to water cool it. Not sure if I'd upgrade since that is only 75 MHz more core than my current card and .2v more. It will be interesting to see if EVGA's top cards will allow nice voltages like this.

Yah I am getting 1300 out of my reference card, so I see no reason to jump from EVGA to Zotac for 100MHz at more voltage and probably higher cost. I agree that I think the EVGA aftermarket card will be one to keep an eye on. One thing I have noticed is that I am not seeing very many complaints of defective cards on the 680s. Is it just me?
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Yah I am getting 1300 out of my reference card, so I see no reason to jump from EVGA to Zotac for 100MHz at more voltage and probably higher cost. I agree that I think the EVGA aftermarket card will be one to keep an eye on. One thing I have noticed is that I am not seeing very many complaints of defective cards on the 680s. Is it just me?

I've seen a few with the RSoD (red screen of death. Ironic that the screen goes red isn't it? ha). But yeah other than those I doubt we'll see any bricked ones at all, maybe one or two, due to the dynamic voltage, which has a low cap I think. Even though Kingpin was using LN2, he still had a reference chip with, was it 1.5v? I forgot the exact voltage.

Anyways, yeah mine run everything stable at a decent overclock with low SLI temps at 1275mhz. So, I do want the Zotac Supreme since half the fun of a new card is finding out how high you can OC. It was still fun with the references since ~200mhz is pretty decent, but damn! I mean, just thinking about it... full voltage control up to 1.5v. I doubt I could run that voltage, especially in SLI, due to temps, so it'll be interesting to see if anyone makes a water-block that'll fit it. But even so, if it's only $100 more I may go for it just to have some control over the voltage and a bit higher clocks (yeah yeah, might be the e-peen thing. Who knows. Still want one tongue.gif )
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