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post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by breadcrums View Post

if you only want to overclock your cpu and not your ram,then new ram isnt required.

if you wish to oc your ram too,then a better ram kit is recommended.
and when u say 12gb,how is the kit divided? 4gb x 3 or 6gb x2
 cause having more than 2 ram sticks limits your ability to overclock.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just curious.
I was under the impression with triple channel memory if they're a matched triple then they should OC the same as if they were a matched double on dual channel. What makes you say otherwise?

And btw KEITHRH12 I just looked again at your sig rig, I missed where you stated you were already watercooling redface.gif It may be that you're already pushing the chip to it's limit. If you can't increase the voltage or the gains have already dropped off with any increase then chances are you're already there.
post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by stonetrap View Post

 

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just curious.
I was under the impression with triple channel memory if they're a matched triple then they should OC the same as if they were a matched double on dual channel. What makes you say otherwise?

 


My point there was that if he wants to overclock his ram,then a better ram kit is necessary.as in a GSkill ripjaws kit will anyday OC better than an Adata kit.

and for the 2 ram sticks,in 'Dual Chanel' many came across stability problems while overclocking when they had 4 ram sticks.their OC was more stable and better when with just 2 sticks/modules.

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post #13 of 18
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My point there was that if he wants to overclock his ram,then a better ram kit is necessary.as in a GSkill ripjaws kit will anyday OC better than an Adata kit.
and for the 2 ram sticks,in 'Dual Chanel' many came across stability problems while overclocking when they had 4 ram sticks.their OC was more stable and better when with just 2 sticks/modules.

Oh definitely agree with you on overclocking with the RAM!

Ah fair enough. I understand that, it's what I was trying to say before, albeit very awkwardly.
I was just slightly thrown, X58 has triple channel so wasn't expecting a disadvantage in utilising that over dual channel.
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by breadcrums View Post

if you only want to overclock your cpu and not your ram,then new ram isnt required.

if you wish to oc your ram too,then a better ram kit is recommended.
and when u say 12gb,how is the kit divided? 4gb x 3 or 6gb x2
 cause having more than 2 ram sticks limits your ability to overclock.

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post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by stonetrap View Post

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just curious.
I was under the impression with triple channel memory if they're a matched triple then they should OC the same as if they were a matched double on dual channel. What makes you say otherwise?
And btw KEITHRH12 I just looked again at your sig rig, I missed where you stated you were already watercooling redface.gif It may be that you're already pushing the chip to it's limit. If you can't increase the voltage or the gains have already dropped off with any increase then chances are you're already there.

I have not oc my cpu yet, well I have done it a lil bit with easy tune, ike to 3.5, but I was wanting to get everything in place before I try. I'm also thinking for cleaning and re-applying my thermal paste. Is there anything else i shoud do before I start ocing. I already did some cable mgt. what is a good idle temp? I think right now at 3.5ghz i'm like a 37-40.
post #16 of 18
The ability of the CPU to OC is not necessarily dependent on the RAM unless you need to use the CPU base clock to OC the CPU. On unlocked CPUs you can just use the multiplier. In some cases it's actually better to leave the RAM at the default speed because it allows the CPU to be OC'd higher - which is always better for performance than OC'ing DDR3 RAM.

Testing by Tom's Hardware, AnandTech and X-Bit Labs on both AMD and Intel desktop systems has shown that OC'ing the RAM above ~1333 MHz. or running tighter latencies does not produce any tangible performance gain in real world apps and only small gains in synthetic benches. AMD Llano APUs are the exception and enjoy faster than ~1333 MHz. RAM to improve GPU performance.

Benches are only theoretical. It's easy enough for people to run real apps and determine what works for them but testing confirms there are simply no significant gains above ~1333 MHz. on desktop PCs because DDR3 RAM @ ~1333 MHz. is not a system bottleneck at this time. In the future with faster CPUs, then faster frequency RAM may become more useful.
Edited by AMD4ME - 3/25/12 at 7:11pm
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thx guys for all the help and info, reps for you all. smile.gif
post #18 of 18
If you're just playing with multiplier, then memory will not affect your overclock.
If you're overclocking BCLK/FSB, then adjusting this value affects your memory and you will have to adjust the memory strap to ensure smooth running.

Personally, I'd always suggest 1600 C9 for any DDR3 system for performance.
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