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I'm the complete opposite. I like the bump because it's a reminder that the key registered. I dislike linear switches. Have owned black and red and hated both. I keep a brown board because that's what I started with but even that will get modded to ghetto greens eventually.

Yeah topre is expensive, but they retain their value pretty well so the loss isn't that big.


But they are quite over hyped IMO.
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have you tried putting some of that cabinet liner under the feet?

OT: Haven't really thought much about it to the point that it'll actually make me take action. It just happens once in a while when I'm doing something so I just go "meh" and slide it back it into place. The thing has a death grip once you place it down flat though.
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Topre switches aren't anything impressive.
My sisters boyfriend had one, cost him 225$.
I was helping them move today, to you know, see how it felt.
IT felt the same as typing on my 5$ OEM Keyboard. Mushy and all, no clang.
Funny part is, he has a 225$ Keyboard, but an Athlon X2 440 with like a NVIDIA 7600GT, and like 1GB of RAM, and he's supposedly a programmer. I guess you don't need beefy rigs to be one. tongue.gif
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_se02b0
This is the one he has...I didn't really feel anything special about it.

Interesting. Afaik that's how their setup, a hybrid [torpes]. Maybe you should get a Torpe with something like a 65g accutation point.

Hmm if he had like an i7 3930k with that gpu, I would understand. But lol, that is a silly computer to have for a programmer imo.

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I'm the complete opposite. I like the bump because it's a reminder that the key registered. I dislike linear switches. Have owned black and red and hated both. I keep a brown board because that's what I started with but even that will get modded to ghetto greens eventually.
Yeah topre is expensive, but they retain their value pretty well so the loss isn't that big.
But they are quite over hyped IMO.



It's good to see that mechanical keyboards cover a broad range of tastes.

One thing is for sure, people should stop using rubberdome and scissor switches.
     
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OT: Haven't really thought much about it to the point that it'll actually make me take action. It just happens once in a while when I'm doing something so I just go "meh" and slide it back it into place. The thing has a death grip once you place it down flat though.

I have the same problem with my happy hacking keyboard. You'd think for 300 they'd do a better job at making it not slide around.
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Topre switches aren't anything impressive.
My sisters boyfriend had one, cost him 225$.
I was helping them move today, to you know, see how it felt.
IT felt the same as typing on my 5$ OEM Keyboard. Mushy and all, no clang.
Funny part is, he has a 225$ Keyboard, but an Athlon X2 440 with like a NVIDIA 7600GT, and like 1GB of RAM, and he's supposedly a programmer. I guess you don't need beefy rigs to be one. tongue.gif
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_se02b0
This is the one he has...I didn't really feel anything special about it.

you have to sit down and really use a board with topre switches to truly feel them out. actually, that goes for any switch. using it for 10 minutes won't be the a true impression of it. when i first got my realforce i had a huge buyer's remorse. didnt see the huge hype about it. then i made it my daily driver and got what people were talking about.

but i still like my blues over it.
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It's good to see that mechanical keyboards cover a broad range of tastes.
One thing is for sure, people should stop using rubberdome and scissor switches.

the apple keyboard isnt a bad scissor switch. but yeah, totally agree.
Edited by waar - 3/24/12 at 11:13pm
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I have the same problem with my happy hacking keyboard. You'd think for 300 they'd do a better job at making it not slide around.
you have to sit down and really use a board with topre switches to truly feel them out. actually, that goes for any switch. using it for 10 minutes won't be the a true impression of it. when i first got my realforce i had a huge buyer's remorse. didnt see the huge hype about it. then i made it my daily driver and got what people were talking about.
but i still like my blues over it.
the apple keyboard isnt a bad scissor switch. but yeah, totally agree.


So I've heard about the apple scissor switches. Everyone seems to like them a lot.

Man, I can see why you love mechanical keyboards so much.

When I started typing, I'll be honest, it felt meh. Then my fingers got adjusted and I can't stop typing on them, and i look forward to WORKING and typing essays just so I can use them.

Now when I go to school with their decent rubber domes (I think accutation of these are 60g, their some lenovo/ibm workstation keyboard that retails for $60), I feel appalled. I can only imagine how you must feel.

I certainly want to try more switches, I guess I might do that some day.

Quick thought:

Biggest regret for this keyboard?

I attached the palm rest. -facepalm- It is nice and texturized, but the way to attach it was horrendous and it looks really really really ugly. I can't take it off either :[

iOne did a great job with this keyboard, excuse the overused cliche but it feels like a tank. At $94 for wireless and cherry browns, I am quite pleased (I don't game on these really, so I don't really worry about lag). They seem far more solidly built than the Sidewinder x5 it replaced. They feel even more solid than the blackwidow I tested at ces. Though that just might be my perception. i like the minimalist design, and would've preferred otaku and tenkeyless, but at under 100, I really can't complain.
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From this thread,

I've basically understood...I should get a Das Keyboard with Cherry Blue switches?

Or just get the Rosewill RK-9000?

To bad I didn't pick one up during Christmas or so, they had them for 75$. Only thing I'd need is a PS/2 Adapter. Those are cheap.


It really seems to be coming down to either the Das Keyboard or the Rosewill RK-9000.

the Filco is the most expensive of the bunch and everyone is telling me Black is not good.
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From this thread,
I've basically understood...I should get a Das Keyboard with Cherry Blue switches?
Or just get the Rosewill RK-9000?
To bad I didn't pick one up during Christmas or so, they had them for 75$. Only thing I'd need is a PS/2 Adapter. Those are cheap.
It really seems to be coming down to either the Das Keyboard or the Rosewill RK-9000.
the Filco is the most expensive of the bunch and everyone is telling me Black is not good.

I may have missed your reply, but it seems you missed any recognition of the buckling springs. You didn't say whether you liked the concept or not.

Black is HEAVY and LINEAR, great for gaming or so I'm told.
     
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I like to game and type on forums.
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Cherry Black switches were one of the first mechanical keyboard switches availble to the general public. They are linear, or non-tactile, switches as there is no loud click or bump felt when a key is depressed. Many gamers prefer these because of the smooth feel and the fact that the actuation and release points are at the exact same position, making double tapping easier than other switches. When gaming a tactile bump doesn’t often help since gamers tend to bottom out on the keys. Due to the lack of a bump, most people don’t prefer the black switches for typing.
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The Cherry Brown switches are about halfway between a typing and a gaming switch. Some people prefer them for gaming since it enables you to double tap faster. Unlike the black switches, the browns have a soft, tactile bump about half way through the key press. The MX Brown switches have a softer click when depressed and require less force to actuate than the blue switches. The Das Keyboard silent series utilizes Cherry MX Brown switches.
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The blue switches are considered to be the best switch for typing because they have a “clicky” tactile bump when the activation point is hit. While many people prefer them for gaming, it is not as easy to double tap as other switches since the release point is above the actuation point. The standard “clicky” versions of Das Keyboards utilize Cherry MX Blue switches.

This makes brown sound like I want...hmm, will continue research. I read it's really easy to double tap on Blacks.


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That said, I may go with the Filco in the first post. Pretty pricey, but Black Switches sound kinda nice for when I try to double tap and make quick movements.
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post #39 of 41
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So I've heard about the apple scissor switches. Everyone seems to like them a lot.
Man, I can see why you love mechanical keyboards so much.
When I started typing, I'll be honest, it felt meh. Then my fingers got adjusted and I can't stop typing on them, and i look forward to WORKING and typing essays just so I can use them.
Now when I go to school with their decent rubber domes (I think accutation of these are 60g, their some lenovo/ibm workstation keyboard that retails for $60), I feel appalled. I can only imagine how you must feel.
I certainly want to try more switches, I guess I might do that some day.
Quick thought:
Biggest regret for this keyboard?
I attached the palm rest. -facepalm- It is nice and texturized, but the way to attach it was horrendous and it looks really really really ugly. I can't take it off either :[
iOne did a great job with this keyboard, excuse the overused cliche but it feels like a tank. At $94 for wireless and cherry browns, I am quite pleased (I don't game on these really, so I don't really worry about lag). They seem far more solidly built than the Sidewinder x5 it replaced. They feel even more solid than the blackwidow I tested at ces. Though that just might be my perception. i like the minimalist design, and would've preferred otaku and tenkeyless, but at under 100, I really can't complain.

it was love at first click when i got my first board (it was actually blues, not browns). i remembered i opened up notepad and just started typing away the most random stuff just so i can hear the click lol. im not usually talkative on steam/aim but i was chatting up a storm haha.

and yeah, most of them feel like tanks. and i LOVE heavy keyboards. they just scream quality.

sucks about the wrist rest. i have two but they are free standing. one is a custom from Eric Barney and the other is a filco one. Eric's is much much nicer and the quality is top notch.
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From this thread,
I've basically understood...I should get a Das Keyboard with Cherry Blue switches?
Or just get the Rosewill RK-9000?
Only thing I'd need is a PS/2 Adapter. Those are cheap.

The Das come with an adapter and the Rosewills have a mini-usb to PS/2 cable as well as the mini-usb to usb one.
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