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All right, I am a 13 year old kid (Don't hate, i know what I'm doing) and I'm on a limited budget. I'm trying to redo my computer, (in signature) and I need the cheapest, yet highest performance solution for what I do. I grew up using old discarded PII (Pentium 2, not Phenom II) boards, and then, 500MHz was better than 400. So, stupidly, I bought a old server motherboard with dual 3GHz processors. Unfortunately, I didn't realize that GPUs were more important, and this board had PCI and PCIe x4. Now, I want to upgrade my CPU, GPU, RAM, and Motherboard. I have a 600w OCZ PSU, a WD SATA3 320GB HDD, a old IDE DVD drive, and a Logisys CS51WBK case. I use this for FSX and X-Plane 9, and I get ~10 FPS (MAX). I need to upgrade, and I wanted to know your opinions on either a Phenom II or a FX-4100. Or would a A6 or A8 work too? I can't seem to find plain FPS numbers, so I want to know what the cheapest option is. I would prefer to have it remain upgradeable, but I understand an APU on the FM1 socket is stuck. I'd like Crossfire/SLI capability for the future, but it's not necessary.

Thanks in advance!
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AMD Radeon HD 7xxx?WHICH?
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get an i3 2100 + 6850, for a cheapo amd get the 955be if you can, but intel is better for a cheapo build

remember gpu is the most important, so no amd a8 crap
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I'd go for the Phenom II. get the 965 ^_^
 
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Browse the used parts. I have a 1035t Pm me we can work something out.
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so what is your budget? what components do you already have (screen, hard drive, ext.)?

For what its worth I'm kind of a phenom II fan, for what you pay for them, the performance/overclock-ability is pretty awesome.
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Originally Posted by .theMetal View Post

so what is your budget? what components do you already have (screen, hard drive, ext.)?
For what its worth I'm kind of a phenom II fan, for what you pay for them, the performance/overclock-ability is pretty awesome.

Hi-5 for being an PII fan biggrin.gif

He stated what he has in the OP
 
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Core i3 2100/ FX 6100+HD 6870/460GTX/HD6850
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get an i3 2100 + 6850, for a cheapo amd get the 955be if you can, but intel is better for a cheapo build
remember gpu is the most important, so no amd a8 crap
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Core i3 2100/ FX 6100+HD 6870/460GTX/HD6850

Correct me if I'm wrong.. but isn't this an AMD thread? O.o
 
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Hi-5 for being an PII fan biggrin.gif
He stated what he has in the OP

o thanks I skimmed it a little too quickly rolleyes.gif my bad

and high 5 back at cha thumb.gif

yea so if you could give us an approximate budget, we can build you a few different rigs and give you a few ideas biggrin.gif
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