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post #51 of 95
yes the 2100 would outperform a Be chip the 960T isent a Be chip its a Turban chip
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So 1866 CAS 9 or 1600 CAS 7?
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if your going with the 960 it maxs at 1600 if your going with FX they max at 1866 as far as CAS the lower it is the lower timing you have but tell me this can you tell the diffrence between 11,10 ,9,8,7 or 6 nano seceonds?
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I can't tell the difference... but to a computer, a few nanoseconds make a really big difference. Also, latency is measured in clock cycles, not nanoseconds. So it would be 9/1866 vs 7/1600. If we do the math, 7/1600 is a lower latency.
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dah.. I already voted for 960T..Oc'd ..It's better than a stock 2500k..which is better than an i3 2100.
This is my reasoning..Haven't had..probably will never have i3 2100..

You should really start providing proof for your statements. Just because you believe something is correct, does not mean it is. I mean, the 955BE used to be one of the best AMD CPU's for gaming, and when overclocked @ 4.0GHz it trades blows with an i3-2100.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120-9.html
^^ could not find an i3-2100 vs a OC 960T this is the closest I could find


I used to have a 965 OC to 4.0 GHz, it was a great chip, and excellent for gaming. I had it before my i5. But I have also built systems using an i3 2100 and they are the best chips for the price.

In all seriousness, if the OP is near a microcenter, or even if they arent, an i3-2100, H61/67 mobo, some ~$30-$40 1333Mhz ram and spending the rest on a GPU will give him the best bang for his buck.

The 960T needs a decent cooler(212+ ~$25) and a good mobo($70+) to unlock/overclock. The i3-2100 can use a basic H61(~$55) mobo and stock cooling(free). Saving a lot of cash for the GPU.
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Hello there
I bought a PII X2 550BE 3.1 a few years ago. It has the ability to run DDR2 and DDR3. I had 4GB of XMS2 (DDR2) ram that I didn't want to get rid of when my Intel board died.
This CPU has been great for my purposes, mainly gaming and ripping/burning a few movies.
I just upgraded to a DDR3 board and 8GB DDR3.
Once I need a bigger bump in speed ill upgrade my PII to an X6, but for now, I'll be miking every bit of performance out of my PII...

Good luck with your search, you cant go wrong with the PII's IMO
post #57 of 95
and how is a clock cycle mesured?
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wow, looks like an i3 has better performance than the Phenom IIs, and is better than all but the high end FX-81xx or 61xx OC at 4+ GHz. Maybe thats the best option then...
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post #59 of 95
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A clock cycle is basically one "tick" of the clock. 1866 DDR3 has a clock of 1866 million cycles per second, while DDR3 1600 has a clock of 1600 million cycles per second. Technically, it is only half of the advertised rate, because it sends 2 sets of data per "tick". So 1866 is actually 933, and 1600 is actually 800.
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post #60 of 95
yes a Cas= cycles a sec
mesured in nanio sec so a 7 is faster then a 11 but for every day use on home computers if saving 4 ns worth it???

this and running a stress test for days why????

who runs thier computer at 100% for hours and hours the pople who do have a budget to replace thier sytems
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