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Currently rocking out my sig rig and I have the rs360 that I originally had with the rasa 750 kit. I added a black ice gtx 120 rad in when I added in my second video card and temps seem 'decent'.

I usually sit in a pretty hot room with the inside of my computer having a temp of 30-35c and the water (at idle) is like 1 degree above that, respectively.

CPU idles at around 38-39c and video cards idle at 35-37c

Under load, for example, while playing bf3 with everything maxed @ 1920x1200 my cpu goes to about 50-54c and video cards sit at around 50-55c. Reported temps of my water exiting from the pump/res under full load is around 40c

My question is: Will I see any benefits of upgrading to a different rad from the RS360? I have 3 ap-15s directly on the rad in a push configuration at the top of the inside of my 800D. Keeping the same fans (and I have the 2150rpm GTs coming whenever they arrive with the group buy...) is there a better rad to be had or will I only really see 1-2c difference under load, given my high internal temps due to my hot room?

Thanks for any input fellow OCN members!
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If your water is 40C under load, in a 35C ambient room, that's a 5C delta, and pretty capable cooling. Moving to a better radiator might drop that to a 3C delta (or possibly only a 4C delta), but that means only shaving at best 2C off your load temps, and less off idle. The problem isn't a lack of radiator, it's your high ambients.
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You will gain more by going push+pull on the RS than you would by upgrading the rad but +1 on ambients being high.

Sounds like its time for a window AC unit..biggrin.gif
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You're much better off going push/pull and you should see some decent results with those GT fans thumb.gif
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Push/Pull generally only adds about 15% performance over push, and with 5C delta already, that's going to be a minimal temperature drop... With high ambients there's just not much you can do.
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I'm in a similiar position actually...almost identical in fact, haha. My ambients aren't as high though. But I am certainly considering more rad. lol. I am already in push/pull

How in the world though are your ambients so high? I'd be dying in a room that hot, haha
 
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I'm in a similiar position actually...almost identical in fact, haha. My ambients aren't as high though. But I am certainly considering more rad. lol. I am already in push/pull
How in the world though are your ambients so high? I'd be dying in a room that hot, haha

It's so painful. I can't stand it. Unfortunately, for the time being, I'm stuck in a situation where I have to deal with what I have until I can get back to where I want to be. I really want to get some AC blasting right at the intakes. Would prolly help a lot.


Thank you all for the helpful posts. I was considering a black ice gtx 360 or a black ice sr1 360. However, if it won't help due to my high ambients, then I'll hold off till I get into a better situation where my ambients aren't so high.

With that in mind, is there a specific delta that would warrant a better radiator?

Say...if I get into a situation where my ambients drop down to 20-25?
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Well, like I said, shaving temps off your water should directly affect your GPU temp. If you've got 5C deltas, dropping the ambient by 10C should drop load temps by a similar amount, and certainly wouldn't be worth replacing the radiator over. If you're at a 10C delta, you could replace the radiator, but moving to faster fans is by far an easier way to drop temps, the same speed fans on a GTX or SR-1 aren't going to give you a huge temp drop, perhaps 10-20% better depending on how they compare to the RS360. A 10C delta is pretty acceptable cooling, 5C is high-performance. If you're over a 10C delta I'd look into something to lower it, but from the sounds of things you're not.
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Well, like I said, shaving temps off your water should directly affect your GPU temp. If you've got 5C deltas, dropping the ambient by 10C should drop load temps by a similar amount, and certainly wouldn't be worth replacing the radiator over. If you're at a 10C delta, you could replace the radiator, but moving to faster fans is by far an easier way to drop temps, the same speed fans on a GTX or SR-1 aren't going to give you a huge temp drop, perhaps 10-20% better depending on how they compare to the RS360. A 10C delta is pretty acceptable cooling, 5C is high-performance. If you're over a 10C delta I'd look into something to lower it, but from the sounds of things you're not.

So what you're saying is, I'm at a pretty good place right now - except for my ambient temps? Fair enough, then. Less money I need to spend!

As a side reference, my ambients are now at around 28c and load water temp is 33. cpu is sitting at 49c and both gpus are sitting at 45c while playing skyrim. Opened a window for the cool night air!
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