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Hi,

I want to use water cooling for my two 7970's. Mainly to reduce noise levels and to OC the cards a little further. Now the problem is that I dont have enough space in my case (CM 960) and that I don't have any experience with setting up a water cooling loop. I saw builds that have a radiator mounted on the back of the case, I think this is what I need to overcome the space issue.

I'd like to hear your opinions about which kit (or parts) I should buy and why.........

Main goals:
- reduce noise levels
- better cooling (now on ref cooling i'm looking at 70-80 c on load)
- higher oc on the cards


Thanks in advance!thumb.gif
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A Rasa Kit should do fine, more specifically the RX360. Are you looking to cool your cpu as well?
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Mmmm I think its not a bad move to cool my cpu too with a decent kit wink.gif I now use a H60 so its not that good, its ok.
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Mmmm I think its not a bad move to cool my cpu too with a decent kit wink.gif I now use a H60 so its not that good, its ok.

those kits are great for starting but if you're going to cool CPU + GPUs you should do a custom build.
this gives you many MANY more options.

for instance, instead of mounting it on the back of your case where you will be either pulling warm air into the rads from the case OR pushing warm air into the case from the rads....you can build a small rad box to put under your desk.

this will give you MUCH better noise reduction, plus you can set it up to pour the hot air out from underneath the desk....cold air sinks so all that cold air under your desk can be fed into the rad and all the warm air coming out will be expelled into the room, where it can rise.

if you're concerned about portability, just use some quick disconnects from your tower to the box (they are a bit pricey though...$15 a pop and you need 4 so $60....but this can be down the road)

if you have any specific questions about which blocks, which hosing, pumps, fittings, rads, bio-cide....etc, feel free to ask.
you can also pm me if you'd like.
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those kits are great for starting but if you're going to cool CPU + GPUs you should do a custom build.
this gives you many MANY more options.
for instance, instead of mounting it on the back of your case where you will be either pulling warm air into the rads from the case OR pushing warm air into the case from the rads....you can build a small rad box to put under your desk.
this will give you MUCH better noise reduction, plus you can set it up to pour the hot air out from underneath the desk....cold air sinks so all that cold air under your desk can be fed into the rad and all the warm air coming out will be expelled into the room, where it can rise.
if you're concerned about portability, just use some quick disconnects from your tower to the box (they are a bit pricey though...$15 a pop and you need 4 so $60....but this can be down the road)
if you have any specific questions about which blocks, which hosing, pumps, fittings, rads, bio-cide....etc, feel free to ask.
you can also pm me if you'd like.

Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it. I see the benefit of this solution and I will play around and gather info about all the parts available. What is your initial suggestion if it's about the brand? Is this really important or is it all equally good? Should I avoid certain brands?
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Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it. I see the benefit of this solution and I will play around and gather info about all the parts available. What is your initial suggestion if it's about the brand? Is this really important or is it all equally good? Should I avoid certain brands?

brand makes a difference, yea....but the block in question is the main thing.
generally companies like EK, XSPC Swiftech...etc (the big companies) will have better quality products....but you get what you pay for, they are expensive.
if you want top of the line performance, that's the way to go.

now if you're on a budget, there's dangerden. they have good blocks for a good price.
i haven't heard anything bad from the company or their products, they just don't generally perform as well as the more expensive competitors.


How much are you willing to spend?
i can come up with a parts list for you if you'd like.

If you wanted to you could also use something like: XSPC WC Kit and branch off from there.
but honestly, you won't learn as much about fittings, tubing sizes, flow, pressure...etc with an all in one kit.
not to mention it's 1 billion times more fun to order all the parts custom and throw it together....much more satisfying once you're done biggrin.gif


Websites to check out:

FrozenCPU
Danger Den
Performance-PCs
Koolance
EK Waterblocks
Swiftech
XSPC

Edited by Hazzeedayz - 3/27/12 at 7:16am
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How much are you willing to spend?
i can come up with a parts list for you if you'd like.

If you wanted to you could also use something like: XSPC WC Kit and branch off from there.
but honestly, you won't learn as much about fittings, tubing sizes, flow, pressure...etc with an all in one kit.
not to mention it's 1 billion times more fun to order all the parts custom and throw it together....much more satisfying once you're done biggrin.gif

My initial max is around 500-600 euro. I'm really shy on my time these days but I like to make this a decent project with a decent result.

The XSPC kits are attractive if you ask me but you'r right about picking parts yourself and building it will be more satisfying at the end. It is my first time so I don't want to be overconfident with
building things custom you know wink.gif

Could you provide me a list with parts which you think will be good performance wise and will be achievable to setup by a newbie tongue.gif ?
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My initial max is around 500-600 euro. I'm really shy on my time these days but I like to make this a decent project with a decent result.
The XSPC kits are attractive if you ask me but you'r right about picking parts yourself and building it will be more satisfying at the end. It is my first time so I don't want to be overconfident with
building things custom you know wink.gif
Could you provide me a list with parts which you think will be good performance wise and will be achievable to setup by a newbie tongue.gif ?

sure thing man

CPU WB: 1x XSPC Rystorm = 47.17 (euros)
GPU WB: 2x EK 7970 Full Cover Blocks = 169.90 (euros)
Radiator: 1x 360 Black Ice = 89.82 (euros)
Tubing: Tygon Ultra-Soft = 3.29/ft (euros)
Pump: MCP35X = 22.43 (euros)
Fittings:
Monsoon =29.19 (comes with 6 fittings)
or
Koolance = 10.10 (comes with 2)
Res: You pick this guy smile.gif just a recommendation, the MCP35X can get a small tube res attachment. if you go to the pump link, it will be in the add-ons below the picture


Estimated Total: about 400 (euros)

this gives you options to do 90 degree and 45 degree fittings for a really clean look
the tubing i picked is extremely flexible but you can also go with primochill primoflex tubing if you want color

if you want to go for the clean look then look into Bitspower Fittings. You will have to figure out what you need depending on the layout of your WC setup. If you decide to do this, i set you up for 1/2" ID (inner diameter) / 3/4" OD (Outer Diameter) - this is the size of the tubing and fittings.
the reason i picked this size for you is because there are much MUCH more parts for this size AND in some circumstances, it gives better performance....but that's a completely different discussion biggrin.gif

Oh almost forgot...FANSSSS
this is usually personal preference, but Gentle Typhoons seem to be a popular choice around here(about 14.96 euros a pop). They provide excellent static pressure while keeping the noise extremely low.
if you do a rad box though, you can go with deltas if ya wanted biggrin.gif...it's what i use but man....they are LOUDDDD.....you'll prolly want to line your rad box with acoustic foam. (i can show ya how to do this if ya want)
either way, if you want awesome performance, you'll want to do the fan config in a push/pull method....which will take 6 fans for the rad i picked for you.
push/pull is just basically when you sandwich the rad with your fans....it helps eliminate dead spots (not entirely but helps) and increases performance by A LOTTT
Edited by Hazzeedayz - 3/27/12 at 8:01am
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Wow cool man! Thanks for your quick response!

This looks decent smile.gif I will examine my case to gather all the options for the wc setup. Lately I'm really thinking about buying another case.
This old cm690 is just a pain. Cable management is just not possible and space for watercooling? No way! What do you think on this one?
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no problem bud
i say go with the Obsidian 800d
it's pricey but there's soooo much you can do to it
if you have trouble deciding, try searching "Obsidian 800d Mod" in the OCN thread search bar...i think you'll like what you see thumb.gif


EDIT: also, there's always the option of doing what i'm doing: Project: Not in the Face!
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