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For anyone with a similar problem, the cheapest and easiest solution is to buy an HDMI® Extender Using Cat5e or CAT6 Cable found here. It will extend HDMI signals at High-speed rating for 98ft (depending on your source and receiving devices, but should do 50ft consistently). You can also get the two Cat6 cables here. At the time of purchase, the total was $33 plus shipping.


I need to run about 45ft of HDMI Cable from my desktop's GPU (Radeon HD 7970) and my receiver (Pioneer VSX-821-K). I will then connect the receiver to an LED-LCD HDTV (Sharp Aquos 70").

Monoprice has some 50ft 22awg silver plated cables and some regular 45ft 22awg cables. However, both of these are listed as Standard HDMI and the detailed specs list they handle 720p/1080i. I want to play my games in 1080p. Some people have mentioned these cables can handle 1080p just fine, but I wanted to confirm before ordering.

The other option would be to purchase two 25ft 22awg silver plated high speed HDMI cables and link them with a repeater. However, this doubles the cost.

Lastly, there is a cheap active 22awg HDMI cable for sale at BestBuy that runs 50ft.

So my main concerns are:

1) Can anyone who owns one of the 45-50ft 22awg standard cables from Monoprice confirm they can support 1080p?

2) Which option gives me the best quality over that long a distance?

3) Does the repeater require additional external power?

EDIT: There is actually a fourth option. It is to move my setup closer and run a 15ft High-speed HDMI cable and use a 75-100ft coaxial cable to connect my modem. I do not want to lose any connection quality. Will this long a run be significant?

On a side note, I know about BJC Series 1 cables, so that might be another (if expensive) option. Still, I would like to keep this as low cost as possible while providing a clean picture.

Cost Breakdown:

Option 1 - $50-55
Option 2 - $110
Option 3 - $30

Here are links for reference:

45ft 22AWG Standard HDMI Cable
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=4035&seq=1&format=2

50ft 22AWG Silver Plated Standard HDMI Cable
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=2678&seq=1&format=2

25ft 22AWG Silver Plated High-speed HDMI Cable
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024001&p_id=3657&seq=1&format=2

HDMI Active Equalizer Extender Repeater
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041914&p_id=7700&seq=1&format=2

50 ft Digital Video High Speed HDMI Cable 22AWG
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=hdmi+high+speed+50ft&hl=en&prmd=imvns&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=923&ix=seb&ion=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=8721426696563426797&sa=X&ei=C5BwT7G0CqHY0QGU7Nm_Bg&ved=0CJkBEPMCMAM
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I'm not the most proficient with the HDMI spec. That said, I'm fairly certain that you want HDMI 1.3 spec for 1080p. Also remember the longer the cable the more attenuation you're going recieve. You'll probably want to keep the cables shorter, as suggested by this Q&A. He also gives some advice about what type of cable you'll want to make that kind of run.

That said, I'd go with these taken off the Monoprice site:

HDMI® Extender using Cat5e/CAT6

2x50FT 24AWG Cat6 550MHz UTP Ethernet Bare Copper Network Cable

Which total to: $54.80

I'm assuming you already have 2 HDMI cables, but if not then you can pick up any high-speed cable at a lower cost.
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I'm not the most proficient with the HDMI spec. That said, I'm fairly certain that you want HDMI 1.3 spec for 1080p. Also remember the longer the cable the more attenuation you're going recieve. You'll probably want to keep the cables shorter, as suggested by this Q&A. He also gives some advice about what type of cable you'll want to make that kind of run.
That said, I'd go with these taken off the Monoprice site:
HDMI® Extender using Cat5e/CAT6
2x50FT 24AWG Cat6 550MHz UTP Ethernet Bare Copper Network Cable
Which total to: $54.80
I'm assuming you already have 2 HDMI cables, but if not then you can pick up any high-speed cable at a lower cost.

Thanks for the information. So with those items suggested I plug in the Ethernet cables into the extenders and the HDMI cabled at the ends? Will this preserve quality of video and audio?
    
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post #4 of 7
That's exactly how that extender works. Although you may have to plug it in. It will transmit 1080p over a 50ft run (but not longer).
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post #5 of 7
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Originally Posted by Droviin View Post

That's exactly how that extender works. Although you may have to plug it in. It will transmit 1080p over a 50ft run (but not longer).

I see. I might actually be able to get away with a 30ft connection and two 6ft HDMI cables. Would you still recommend this setup with those cables?
Edited by ProgenitorX - 3/26/12 at 7:00pm
    
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You could, but I don't think it's necessary. I had read the specs wrong and the extenders are rated at 1080p over 50M, not ft. So you're well within the safezone as 164ft is the max.
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You could, but I don't think it's necessary. I had read the specs wrong and the extenders are rated at 1080p over 50M, not ft. So you're well within the safezone as 164ft is the max.

Yeah, I actually went with these ones:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011012&p_id=8121&seq=1&format=2

They are rated for 98ft which is still lots more than what I need and come with HDMI connectors and don't need external power. I'm going to see if all goes well with these. If not, I'll try the powered $40 ones. Thanks a lot for your help!
    
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