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I thought that the max voltage you could run with a 3930k on the x79 boards was 1.5V, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

I've read that to get the best OC possible you need memory that can OC as well so the CPU OC isn't limited by the RAM. So this causes me some problems because I'm trying to find the absolute best memory I can pair with the 3930k on a Asus Rampage IV Formula. I know that the speed AND timings are important, but I'm not sure which one more so. The problem arises in that I'm seeing LOTS of memory that's running at 1.65V, which confuses me as that goes against the whole max 1.5V thing. The best RAM I've been able to find with the tightest timings and highest speed was 9-11-10-27 @ 2133MHz (this stuff - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233230). But holy crap is it expensive, and again, it's running at 1.65V.

Is there any other memory that runs just as fast with tight timings at 1.5V and/or is cheaper?
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DDR3 Ram that runs at 1.65 v was originally designed for the X58 platform. Unless you know what you are doing (you have to keep some parameters in check - make sure you are within 0.6v of CPU VCCSA and DRAM voltage - to not damage the integrated memory controller), you should not run RAM with Sandy Bridge or Sandy Bridge-E at any other voltage than 1.5 v.

As to good RAM, you can get the Corsair Dominator or Dominator GT, Corsair has 8 GB and 16 GB and even 32 GB quad channel memory kits that already run at 1.5v.

If you want the absolute best, and you can find it in your country, go for the new Samsung 30 nm technology made 4 GB DDR3 sticks that run at 1.35 v (Low voltage DDR3), they are insane overclockers. Because they run at 1.35 v by default, you have headroom and keep everything safe with Sandy Bridge.
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DDR3 Ram that runs at 1.65 v was originally designed for the X58 platform. Unless you know what you are doing (you have to keep some parameters in check - make sure you are within 0.6v of CPU VCCSA and DRAM voltage - to not damage the integrated memory controller), you should not run RAM with Sandy Bridge or Sandy Bridge-E at any other voltage than 1.5 v.
As to good RAM, you can get the Corsair Dominator or Dominator GT, Corsair has 8 GB and 16 GB and even 32 GB quad channel memory kits that already run at 1.5v.
If you want the absolute best, and you can find it in your country, go for the new Samsung 30 nm technology made 4 GB DDR3 sticks that run at 1.35 v (Low voltage DDR3), they are insane overclockers. Because they run at 1.35 v by default, you have headroom and keep everything safe with Sandy Bridge.

Ahh ok, so I was correct about the 1.5V thing.

Two questions about those Samsung DIMMs. First, would it be able to get close to that Dominator GT kit's timings and speed I linked to? Second, if I want to run them as fast as possible at 1.5V, will I need to get heat spreaders for them? I would imagine they will run much hotter at 2133MHz @ 1.5V vs the stock 1600MHz @ 1.35V.
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Ahh ok, so I was correct about the 1.5V thing.
Two questions about those Samsung DIMMs. First, would it be able to get close to that Dominator GT kit's timings and speed I linked to? Second, if I want to run them as fast as possible at 1.5V, will I need to get heat spreaders for them? I would imagine they will run much hotter at 2133MHz @ 1.5V vs the stock 1600MHz @ 1.35V.

The link you posted doesn't work.

As to speeds, timings and heat, I would suggest you head over here, that is already a huge thread with lots of data on these from our fellow OCN members.
 
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The link you posted doesn't work.
As to speeds, timings and heat, I would suggest you head over here, that is already a huge thread with lots of data on these from our fellow OCN members.

Oh sorry about that, here is a proper link - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233230

Thanks for the link, I'll post in there to ask about the heat issue.smile.gif
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Oh sorry about that, here is a proper link - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233230
Thanks for the link, I'll post in there to ask about the heat issue.smile.gif

The ram linked is the same as mine and it's 1.5v @ 2133MHz. Even some of the posted Newegg reviews say it's 1.5v ram.

There is no issue OC'n this ram using 1.65v for tighter timings or higher frequency or even using 1.65v ram in general.

Don't worry.

EDIT: here is a pic of one of my ram sticks.

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I installed the taller GTX heat fins.
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Huh? But as said above, 1.5V is the max for x79? headscratch.gif

Also, where can you buy the larger GTX fins?
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Read this guide for your SB-E overclocking and general information needs.


http://www.overclock.net/t/1189242/sandy-bridge-e-overclocking-guide-walk-through-explanations-and-support-for-all-x79-overclockers

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Read this guide for your SB-E overclocking and general information needs.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1189242/sandy-bridge-e-overclocking-guide-walk-through-explanations-and-support-for-all-x79-overclockers
You can buy the taller fins off of the Corsair website.

Wow! This changes everything, now that I know the true max is 1.65V and not 1.5V. Thanks for info!

Edit - Now I realize where I kept getting the 1.5V number from. It's the max voltage for the CPU before degradation starts to happen.
Edited by Warrior1986 - 3/26/12 at 6:48pm
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