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post #1 of 8
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Here's a scenario.

- I helped a friend buy "Build 1".
- His brother is trying to tell me that it would have been better to get the equivalent (or whatever is closest to) components in this HP desktop "Build 2", then just buy a 6850 separately and put it in. I told him the problem there is the consumer doesn't know anything about the motherboard in the HP computer or knows anything about the case.
- Now his brother wanted him to get the HP because he gets a 17% discount off any HP products.



Build 1:
- LG 22X Super-Multi DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH22NS90B - OEM $17.99
- NZXT Phantom PHAN-001RD Red White Finish w/Red Trim Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $129.99
- Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - $84.99
- ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS - $94.99
- Rosewill RNX-N180PCe PCI Express Revision 1.1 Wireless Adapter - $16.99
- SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 - $149.99
- CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31 - $89.99
- CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $49.99
- AMD Phenom II X4 975 Black Edition Deneb 3.6GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core - $149.99

+ Windows 7 whatever price
~ $850



vs.


Build 2:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_can_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=desktops&a1=Category&v1=High+performance&series_name=h8m_series&jumpid=in_R329_prodexp/hhoslp/psg/desktops/High_performance/h8m_series
+6850 - $149.99

with discount ~$725-750


Would this work?
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post #2 of 8
simple 725 + 150=875(HP price) 875>850
You know there's quality components in the custom build.
Do you really think HP is going to put as good of components in their stuff?
umm.no
Did i mention you should get a 960T? for $125?
Edited by Schmuckley - 3/26/12 at 7:22pm
 
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Samsung 840 pro Bong cooler / RASA waterblock Rosewill Capstone Gold 750 None 
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cheap! Newegg box panel ibeats with onboard. 
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AMD Phenom II X6 1075T w/2 cores locked @ 4.2+ M4a89GTD-Pro XFX Radeon HD 5870 8gb Samsung ddr3 1600 11-11-11-28@ 8-8-8-24 
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post #3 of 8
Go with Build 1.
    
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OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Plug and Play moniter (LG) Gateway (Stock) Rosewill Capstone 550 WATTS 
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post #4 of 8
Yes it will work, but I would say build it your self, but if you are the type of person to feel more comfortable having a pre built system that you could send in if anything goes wrong then go with the Hp.
post #5 of 8
I dont even care if its better money wise to buy from hp
ALWAYS CUSTOM
post #6 of 8
Your friend's brother is some kind of HP fanboy.

That custom build has better RAM, Mobo, PSU, and arguably CPU. The extra 500gb on the HP won't matter and dude can always get moar HDDs later.

Plus, your dude can answer with "Custom." when people ask what kind of computer he has.
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windows 10 Pok3r w/ clears cooler master 850w silent 600t 
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ocz ssd Asus CD/DVD-RW Zalman CNPS9900 8.1 pro fo sho 
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post #7 of 8
i would say go witha cusom build. In the OEM Builds the
  1. PSU is not reliable to run a 6850 and a FX6200 stable.
  2. the RAM is 1333Mhz
  3. low binned RAM leading it to low quality
  4. motherboard is mostly lower quality and can not be overclocked
  5. the Case Airflow is not what you pay for
these are some of the things that came to my midn when you talk about a OEM rig costing you 850$
and about Custom this
Part list permalink

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 960T Black 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($124.63 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.99 @ NCIX US)

Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.95 @ Newegg)

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)

Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Power Supply: Rosewill 630W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $754.53 + OS 87.45$+HSF Raidmax X3 8$

Grand Total 849.98$ Shipped

i tired to make the rig as much as fancy i could by putting the Phantom 410 or else a HAF 912 for 50$ and go with a better motherboard or HSF thumb.gif

Hope you like it smile.gif
post #8 of 8
I don't even care if its better money wise to buy from hp.
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