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They are white like all Apple products. Trendy biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post

C'mon if ya gonna use Headroom graphs, use them properly. the earphones are vastly different from the headphones. Frequency response doesn't tell you much at all about the sound quality. Square wave response graphs do the best (i.e. how accurately they reproduce a electrical signal).

Regarding the graph, thanks for pointing that out. I'm not sure how I screwed that up with the wrong model. Looking at the correct graph does invalidate the initial conclusions, since they measure so differently. However, the frequency response of the Beats headphones is pretty bad too, specifically in its midrange, where the ear is most sensitive.

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While I agree about the importance of square waves, I don't understand how you can dismiss frequency response graphs. Frequency response represents how accurately an input signal is reproduced across the entire spectrum. A smooth response indicates accurate reproduction of the source, while a jagged one shows which frequencies are amplified and which are muted. While you can't simply look at a frequency response graph and tell precisely how the system will sound, apparent irregularities can be used to draw certain conclusions. For example, the +/-5 dB variations throughout the midrange of the Beats means voices and many other instruments will sound unnatural.
Edited by ChaoticKinesis - 4/2/12 at 7:10pm
     
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You don't realise that different headphones doesn't change the notes of the music etc... it's as you said, more clarity and details.

Ahh well see I just couldn't picture myself forking over $50+ for headphones. The most expensive ones I've had were $65 and my mom bought them for me as a gift. They were Skullcandy earbuds that broke a few months after getting them mad.gif I guess you just have to be into it. Kind of like how some people think it's dumb to spend $1000+ on a PC, I think it's dumb to spend $50+ on headphones. It's all opinion.
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I listen to various styles of metal (mostly progressive, neo-classical, melodic death), classical, psychedelic trance, and industrial. I can appreciate a variety of other styles and, while not a fan of rap, I have no problem accepting it as just another genre of music. However, it's hard for me to recognize as music something having that level of vulgarity and offensiveness, while lacking any qualities that I would regard as musical. I have more to say on the topic but I'll stop there.

I listen to hip hop(mildly),dubstep and rock a very little metal. It's just another music genre but I wouldn't bash it.
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They are just like the iPod, everyone wants one because they are 'cool' but there are many MP3 players out there that do a much better job for a much lesser price tag.
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I listen to various styles of metal (mostly progressive, neo-classical, melodic death), classical, psychedelic trance, and industrial. I can appreciate a variety of other styles and, while not a fan of rap, I have no problem accepting it as just another genre of music. However, it's hard for me to recognize as music something having that level of vulgarity and offensiveness, while lacking any qualities that I would regard as musical. I have more to say on the topic but I'll stop there.

These exact same words could come out of my grandmothers mouth, except she'd be talking about how some "noise" like metal could never be called music.

Long story short, you like what you like and others like what they like.

Noone likes the "right" or "true" music, they just like whatever music they like.
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These exact same words could come out of my grandmothers mouth, except she'd be talking about how some "noise" like metal could never be called music.
Long story short, you like what you like and others like what they like.
Noone likes the "right" or "true" music, they just like whatever music they like.

I wasn't talking about all rap, but rather specific songs. There's also plenty of metal out there that is noise to me. I have no intention of arguing tastes, since my point was never about invalidating the musical tastes of others. It all goes back to the question of "what is art?" and whether it makes sense to say that it is whatever anyone wishes to label as such. Some would argue that everything can be art, while others disagree. I happen to fall into the camp that doesn't see the value in drawing an outline of a square on a canvas, throwing a bucket of paint on it, and calling it a masterpiece. Pointlessly cursing into a microphone or tremolo picking a single power chord on a guitar is no different.

I'm sure there is something out there that someone considers art, where you would disagree. If that is true, your argument breaks down. If not, well then kudos to you.
     
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i have always liked headphones with style so thats why i like Beats, i don't like the same look of Silver and Black alot of headphones people say are great always have that same color tone with no other color why.
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Originally Posted by ChaoticKinesis View Post

I wasn't talking about all rap, but rather specific songs. There's also plenty of metal out there that is noise to me. I have no intention of arguing tastes, since my point was never about invalidating the musical tastes of others. It all goes back to the question of "what is art?" and whether it makes sense to say that it is whatever anyone wishes to label as such. Some would argue that everything can be art, while others disagree. I happen to fall into the camp that doesn't see the value in drawing an outline of a square on a canvas, throwing a bucket of paint on it, and calling it a masterpiece. Pointlessly cursing into a microphone or tremolo picking a single power chord on a guitar is no different.
I'm sure there is something out there that someone considers art, where you would disagree. If that is true, your argument breaks down. If not, well then kudos to you.

The subject is not whether it is a masterpiece, but whether it is art.

You've changed your argument to something different with that statement and have brought your personal tastes into what can be considered art, when your personal taste can never define what art is.

If anything, you've basically put yourself into the first category you describe by in your own words accepting that the outline of a square with random paint on it is art, then going on to judge how good the piece of art is by basically saying "I dont think it's a masterpiece".

You basically attempted to denounce something as art because you didn't like it, just as you say you find a hard time finding some rap a form of art because you dont very much like some parts of it.

Art is basically an expression of a person. Whether another person is interested in that art does not add or subtract any "this is art" points.

Organising your front room a certain way is an art as it encompases an expression of yourself. Then people show up and judge your art "I like your choice of colours blah blah blah".

As I hope I have showcased, I am not the type to try and tell another what is or what is not as I have made it clear that my singular opinion is not a determining factor.

All I can do is give my opinion on it.
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 4/3/12 at 4:33pm
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