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They will, Don't speak unless you have experiance in the matter. Corsair Take's nothing but perfect care of their customers
I actually wrote that I didn't know. I was not misinforming somebody. Besides that, Corsair's rep is good in my book just because from the feedback I've seen here which I made clear in a previous post. Also, the risk of such a huge hassle (broken components) is not worth the few supposed degrees of difference even if the parts get replaced. I don't know why you're trying to chew me out, it is just an opinion blinksmiley.gif
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corsair h100
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+1
A great deal of the arguments here in the thread seem to stem from peoples interpretation of "quiet" or "acceptable noise". For me, any fan spinning above 1000rpm is too loud, even for very high quality fans (noiseblockers in my case).
At those low fan speeds, CLCs are no option whatsoever, because even medium sized air coolers handily outperform them (TR HR-02).
But if you don't mind fans spinning at 2000rpm and consider them quiet, by all means go for the h100. At those fan speeds there is a decent enough difference in performance, if you are willing to shell out the cash.

YES.

I can notice and consider loud, high quality 120mm fans at 1200-1350rpm and it gets annoying. At 1000rpm it's bearable, at 2500rpm CORSAIR H100 :@ I WANT TO JUMP 15 FEET OUT MY WINDOW.

For now I play headphones on due to noisy HAF X's 200mm fans mad.gif
    
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If 20db is too loud you must live out in the middle of absolute nowhere.

actually i just dont like fan noise while i watch movies using my pc or tv
and no i live in a big and loud city, still quiet in my house, sort of - i guess its called - sub urban town
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I would actually go for the D14. It's quieter, and yes, it does perform worse to a certain level, but if you are mantaining the same OC and voltages on either cooler, and still keeping the temps on the D14 at a reasonable level, I dont see the need to pay the significant extra for 5 degrees better.

And, if you plan to resell in the future, it is definitely better to get the D14. As a heatsink will remain as a heatsink no matter what, it might oxidise, but it will never break down, unless you scratch the CPU contact surface. However, the H100 makes use of electronics which will break down, making it harder to resell 2nd hand.
    
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what makes it louder other than the fan then? the pump? i don't hear any pump noise unless i place my ear next to the pump

As dmaster pointed out, a clc just takes the rad/sink and places it somewhere else. That somewhere else for a rad means exposure to the outside, which makes sound pressure from the fans more difficult to isolate. In the case of the H100 that usually means the entire top panel, which exposes not only sp from the rad fans but sp from anything inside the case. With a tower, the sound pressure is isolated to the interior, and with efficient airflow the top panel can even be sealed off.

Granted, with good fans the noise shouldn't be much, but it is more. However, people who want to minimize noise try to have the case as sealed as possible, with case fans placed laterally so sound isn't directed at them (presuming common case location).

As someone who likes to tinker around in the case a lot and swap out fans, the heatsink is a tremendous headache; some more than others. I still prefer it but can't deny the downside. If you 'set and forget', it's not an issue.
    
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what makes it louder other than the fan then? the pump? i don't hear any pump noise unless i place my ear next to the pump

What he means is if you use a less powerful fan to control the noise output your also going to have higher temps. So, once you have wasted $120 on the H100, and then blown another 15-20 bucks a fan your temps are going to be high. If you where to put fans of the same noise level as the D-14 or silver arrow on an H100 it would not be comparable in any way shape or form, temps would be insane. Reason is the fins on the radiator's on most all CLC's are optamized with a "high fin density". This means that you need to use a high power/high static pressure fan to get good results. Its not like in water cooling where you could choose between the RX240 for quiet operation or the RS240 for higher power operation. Nothing to do with the pump. Its about the fans and how much static pressure/air flow they can push through such a dense radiator.

At this point and time when it comes to a full compitition between high end air and CLC's the air coolers are a better buy unless space is a big problem. But if noise, cost, and performance are at the top of your list when selecting a cooler then CLC's fall the the back of the pack. All boils down to the DBA to Thermal dispersion, and CLC's lose big in that.
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okay, i will repost this again
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Ok, thermally inefficient you say? Do you even know what does efficiency means?
CLC like h100 has a very small pump built into the waterblock, has a very thin radiator, but performs as good as those massive air coolers like D14, With that being said, CLC are very efficient for what it is.

do you really expect CLCs to perform like those full blown watercooling which has powerful pump and thick radiator?
This is like saying that the camaro is more efficient than prius because the camaro is faster, that is not efficiency bro.

I know that CLC is more expensive than air coolers, so if you care about price to performance ratio and dont care installing a gigantic heatsink, then CLCs are not for you

But if you don't care about the price to performance ratio, and you don't want to install a massive heatsink, you don't want a full blown watercooling either because it's too much hassle, then CLCS are the best for you
Implying that nobody should buy CLC is just plain ignorance
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okay, i will repost this again

Thats nice, I only answered your question..... I guess don't ask a question if you don't want an answer...
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the fin spacing on the HXXX coolers is very small so it will work better with higher fan speeds (in relation to let's say a Prolimatech Genesis). So while a Prolimatech Genesis is optimized for 500-1500rpm fans, a HXX works best with 1500-2500rpm fans. (in relation to each other). so the HXX might outperform the Genesis at 2000rpm but will lose @ 1000rpm.
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