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Hey guys I have been wondering for quite some time on which platform I will conduct my Ivy build.

It would really help me out if you could help me determine the different advantages of both platforms in order to crossreference them.

My other hardware will be GTX 580 Lightning (or SLI not sure yet)
2x Black Caviar 1TB (no SATA3, but I might upgrade soon)
1x Corsair SSD
GPU and CPU will both be watercooled, since I already got the Black Freezer for the Lightning, Koolance 370 for 1155 Ivy and some rads.


The main difference between X79 and z77 to my understanding will be the lanes.
X79 will provide more lanes due to the higher pin amount if I am not mistaken.

This might be interesting to me when I will SLI my 580.

But there should be z77 boards with a NF200 chip shouldn´t there?
I am just presuming so, since the Asrock z68 Extreme7 Gen3 had it, and if they build it in a z68 board they might as well do so with a z77 ?
Most probably on one of the new ASUS z77 boards I am hoping for a NF200 chip in order to provide 2x X16 Lanes in SLI.


Other then the lanes I can only see x79 having more an option to install more RAM but that won´t be necessary in my case.

Another advantage of 1155 in general over 2011 is the onboard graphics right?


My main target on the new build will be benching/overclocking the hell out of Ivy and gaming of course.
Now overclocking will be 70% CPU dependant, and I think phase capabilities, VRMs etc can be of good quality and performance on both platforms.
Since I will wait for the next gen of cards with 580 SLI, PCI 3.0 won´t be too much of use to me, but it is always nice ot be prepared for the unkown.

The only really important thing to me is to be able to operate my two cards in 2 x 16X Lanes.

So what do you think, which platform should I choose for the Ivy build?
And more precisely, which board should I take:)
post #2 of 44
You won't be able to use x79 for an Ivy build because only socket 1155 supports Ivy. If you want to go with x79, you will need a socket 2011 CPU, which limits you to a 3820, 3930K, or 3960X Sandy Bridge-E chip. As far as I know, dual x16 slots are not possible with Ivy, but dual x8 are, and thats more than enough for crossfired cards.
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So what do you think, which platform should I choose for the Ivy build?
And more precisely, which board should I take:)

lga 1155 z77 for ivy bridge
the x79 lga2011 is for sandy bridge-e and late this year or Q1 next then it will support ivy bridge-e

look at asus z77 or Gigabyte z77s on thier websites smile.gif
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I thought Ivybridge was also compatible with the 2011 socket?thinking.gif

Also yeah, Ivy only provides 16X Lanes.
Which is why I will need a z77 motherboard with a NF200 chip in order to provide more lanes.

I presumed that since for example the Asrock z68 Extreme7 Gen3 board had the NF200 chip, some z77 boards might have it as well.


Edit: Ahaa Ivybridge - e .... will there be major performance difference to the normal Ivybridge?
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I thought Ivybridge was also compatible with the 2011 socket?thinking.gif
Also yeah, Ivy only provides 16X Lanes.
Which is why I will need a z77 motherboard with a NF200 chip in order to provide more lanes.
I presumed that since for example the Asrock z68 Extreme7 Gen3 board had the NF200 chip, some z77 boards might have it as well.
Edit: Ahaa Ivybridge - e .... will there be major performance difference to the normal Ivybridge?

ivybrdige-e, only performance increase would be in CPU intensive applications, there will be 8c/16t monsters smile.gif
as too Ivy bridge z77 boards i can only assume there will be NF200 chips on models..
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I would say get z77 unless you need quad sli with 4 gpu as pcie 2.0 @ 8x is not a bottleneck for any current gpu, and since every gpu in the future will be pci3.0, no gpu will bottleneck a pcie 3.0 slot @ 8x......

Basically what I'm saying is that there is no performance difference between 8x or 16x slots, as it has been proven in multiple reviews.
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You won't be able to use x79 for an Ivy build because only socket 1155 supports Ivy. If you want to go with x79, you will need a socket 2011 CPU, which limits you to a 3820, 3930K, or 3960X Sandy Bridge-E chip. As far as I know, dual x16 slots are not possible with Ivy, but dual x8 are, and thats more than enough for crossfired cards.

yes you can use lga2011 for ivy bridge-e
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Ivy Bridge-E for X79 won't come until 2013. Get a nice Z77 board and 3570K or 3770K wink.gif PCI-E 3.0 @ 8x is more than enough for Crossfire and SLI.
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Ivy Bridge-E for X79 won't come until 2013. Get a nice Z77 board and 3570K or 3770K wink.gif PCI-E 3.0 @ 8x is more than enough for Crossfire and SLI.

i really doubt this ivy bridge-e shouldnt be long after ivy bridge release
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i really doubt this ivy bridge-e shouldnt be long after ivy bridge release

http://www.techspot.com/news/47849-ivy-bridge-e-delayed-until-second-half-of-2013.html
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