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i really doubt this ivy bridge-e shouldnt be long after ivy bridge release

there was a press release saying it won't come out until 2013... google is your friend wink.gif
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ok looks like im wrong then, thats crazy i didnt think i would have to wait that long for ivy bridge-e i might get myself a new mobo for when ivy releases then
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Originally Posted by yanks8981 View Post

You won't be able to use x79 for an Ivy build because only socket 1155 supports Ivy. If you want to go with x79, you will need a socket 2011 CPU, which limits you to a 3820, 3930K, or 3960X Sandy Bridge-E chip. As far as I know, dual x16 slots are not possible with Ivy, but dual x8 are, and thats more than enough for crossfired cards.

Disregard this^^


Lga2011 (x79) supports Ivy bridge archetecture, except that Ivy Bridge for x79 won't be out till next year. Which means very little when comparing 3770 ivy to the 3820 sandy-e. The lga2011 platform has longer legs than the lga1155.. so picking up a 6, 8 or 10 core Ivy-e is a possible in the near future. With lga1155 it is not.
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I won´t use PCI 3.0 until the next generation.

Till then I will be GTX 580 SLI.
It is true that in most tests and applications 16X and 8X have almost no performance differences, but the gap becomes clear at extreme resolutions as for example with a triple monitor setup.


I definitely want 2x 16X SLI because I intend to use triple monitors.
The only way to have 2 x 16X on z77 is the NF200 chip.

Up until this point I have not found any z77 boards with the NF200 chip unfortunately.

Only the Asrock z68 Extreme7 Gen3 has the NF200 chip. (This board would also support Ivy, but I want the newer chipset z77 smile.gif)


So aside from more lanes, RAM and Ivy- E (&Sandy - E), are there any additional major differences between x79 and z77?

Both have native USB 3.0 and SATA 3.0

The only thing I could name off the top would be Onboard graphics, which won´t be available on x79, but other than that I can´t think of anything?

I will google performance differences between Ivy and Ivy E, so don´t bother on that:)


So basically:

x79: Sandy- E (Hexa), Ivy- E, more RAM options, more lanes

z77: Ivy, Onboard graphics, less RAM options, less lanes lol^^
post #15 of 44
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Originally Posted by Power Lemon View Post

So basically:
x79: Sandy- E (Hexa), Ivy- E, more RAM options, more lanes, CPU Benchmark monster, more power consumption, known excellent over clocker
z77: Ivy, Onboard graphics, less RAM options, less lanes lol^^, less power consumption

Fixed this for you thumb.gif , if benchmarks are that important, spring the money for the extra CPU cores and power. A 3930k will out perform all of the IB 1155 CPUs, but will also be complete overkill for gaming... Unless you are streaming in 1080p or higher res, then you might want the power.
 
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post #16 of 44
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Disregard this^^
Lga2011 (x79) supports Ivy bridge archetecture, except that Ivy Bridge for x79 won't be out till next year. Which means very little when comparing 3770 ivy to the 3820 sandy-e. The lga2011 platform has longer legs than the lga1155.. so picking up a 6, 8 or 10 core Ivy-e is a possible in the near future. With lga1155 it is not.

What do you mean, disregard this? Everything that I said is true. Ivy Bridge is not supported on an x79 platform. Ivy Bridge-E, is. Nothing I said was incorrect. From his orginal post, he was under the impression Ivy Bridge was compatible with either the 1155 Z77 board, or the 2011 X79 board, which is false. He stated his purpose for this build is gaming and benching, which an Ivy i7 and z77 board would be perfect for. I wouldnt consider 2013 to be "the near future" either in the world of technology. If you have an article that supports your claim that Ivy-E is going to be 8 or 10 cores, I would also love to see that.
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What do you mean, disregard this? Everything that I said is true. Ivy Bridge is not supported on an x79 platform. Ivy Bridge-E, is. Nothing I said was incorrect. From his orginal post, he was under the impression Ivy Bridge was compatible with either the 1155 Z77 board, or the 2011 X79 board, which is false. He stated his purpose for this build is gaming and benching, which an Ivy i7 and z77 board would be perfect for. I wouldnt consider 2013 to be "the near future" either in the world of technology. If you have an article that supports your claim that Ivy-E is going to be 8 or 10 cores, I would also love to see that.

Most people consider Ivy Bridge as conclusive term, both indicating Ivy bridge 1155 and Ivy bridge E for 2011:)


Can somebody recommend a z77 board with the NF200 chip on it please?

ASUS is not yet listing any z77 boards.
So isn´t Gigabyte.
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post #19 of 44
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Originally Posted by Power Lemon View Post

Most people consider Ivy Bridge as conclusive term, both indicating Ivy bridge 1155 and Ivy bridge E for 2011:)
Can somebody recommend a z77 board with the NF200 chip on it please?
ASUS is not yet listing any z77 boards.
So isn´t Gigabyte.

I don't think that is true. If someone told me they are going to buy an Ivy Bridge CPU, most would assume they would be going for a socket 1155 chip. Theres a reason theres an E designation on the more expensive chips.

As for NF200:

http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z77_WS/#specifications
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Originally Posted by yanks8981 View Post

What do you mean, disregard this? Everything that I said is true. Ivy Bridge is not supported on an x79 platform. Ivy Bridge-E, is. Nothing I said was incorrect. From his orginal post, he was under the impression Ivy Bridge was compatible with either the 1155 Z77 board, or the 2011 X79 board, which is false. He stated his purpose for this build is gaming and benching, which an Ivy i7 and z77 board would be perfect for. I wouldnt consider 2013 to be "the near future" either in the world of technology. If you have an article that supports your claim that Ivy-E is going to be 8 or 10 cores, I would also love to see that.

"Ivy bridge" is an archetecture, not a chip. Just like Sandy bridge...


Everyone is already under the assumption that when speaking about x79/lga2011, you know that it is on the "extreme" platform. Your post is technically incorrect and a point of confusion. That is why I suggested that it be disregarded.
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