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Hey guys got my HD 7970 setup last night with my EK Cooper Acetal Block and wanted to start the overclocking!

its currently at 1125/1575 threw CCC but i cant figure out how to unlock the voltage control and higher clocks in afterburner ( this is my first radeon card )

So I found TriXX and when I change stuff it says disable ULPS first or the OC will be unstable

So I googled it and changed every instance of EnableULPS (in the registry) I could find but TriXX is still giving me the error

Any ideas?

Thanks smile.gif
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Your best bet is to download the latest afterburner beta (beta 15) from there website.

Once installed you then want to fnd the Enable Unofficial Overclocking EULA in the afterburner config file and put this after it: I confirm that I am aware of unofficial overclocking limitations and fully understand that MSI will not provide me any support on it

Also change Enable Unofficial Overclocking to "1". Voltage control option is in the settings, just check the box to enable it.

If you are on the latest AMD drivers you may find that once you have done the above and enabled voltage control in afterburner settings that your clocks will show as zero in afterburner. If this happens then you will need to copy and move two extra files into your afternurner root file (main folder). I'm just trying to find where you can download these files from. I will update once have found somewher. I have them but can't seem to upload them for you.

All a bit of a ball ache I know but it is the best tool to use. There are lots of other things to know about overclocking these cards so I suggest you have a gander at the officical 7970 thread here on OCN.
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Your best bet is to download the latest afterburner beta (beta 15) from there website.

Once installed you then want to fnd the Enable Unofficial Overclocking EULA in the afterburner config file and put this after it: I confirm that I am aware of unofficial overclocking limitations and fully understand that MSI will not provide me any support on it

Also change Enable Unofficial Overclocking to "1". Voltage control option is in the settings, just check the box to enable it.

If you are on the latest AMD drivers you may find that once you have done the above and enabled voltage control in afterburner settings that your clocks will show as zero in afterburner. If this happens then you will need to copy and move two extra files into your afternurner root file (main folder). I'm just trying to find where you can download these files from. I will update once have found somewher. I have them but can't seem to upload them for you.

All a bit of a ball ache I know but it is the best tool to use. There are lots of other things to know about overclocking these cards so I suggest you have a gander at the officical 7970 thread here on OCN.

No, you should NOT be using "unofficial overclocking". It causes more problems than it solves....

Follow these steps. Make sure you checkmark the obvious "unlock voltage control" boxes in MSI AB settings, obviously. I figured that was implied when I made these steps:

1) Make sure unofficial overclocking in MSI AB is NOT turned on.
2) Run MSI AB with the xcl flag on first start. (Put -xcl at the end of the target in the shortcut).
3) MSI AB will say you need to restart, so restart. Do NOT restart MSI AB yet.
4) Once restarted, remove the xcl command out of the shortcut.
5) Start up MSI AB as normal.
6) Create a bone stock profile. Save as 1 (as an example). You CAN use a custom fan profile, but otherwise leave all settings stock.
7) Create your overclocked profile (again, a custom fan profile is preferred). Make sure you use +20% in settings for your overclocked profile.
8) Go to settings, scroll all the way over to the right to "Profiles". Set "2D" as your stock profile. Set "3D" as your overclocked profile.
9) Disable screensavers. You can have your monitors turn off, but no screensavers, as those put you into your 3D profile. Overclocked seems to be what causes idle lock ups.
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Can you elaborate on these issues please as I have used unoffiical overclocking with many cards without any problems.

I ask out of curiosity. I'm not here to argue.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jokah View Post

Can you elaborate on these issues please as I have used unoffiical overclocking with many cards without any problems.

I ask out of curiosity. I'm not here to argue.

I always ended up getting odd lock ups at idle due to using overclocked settings for 2D use (the jump from overclocked to the idle 2D clocks seems to be too much is my guess). I was also getting isuses of the clocks not functioning correctly, and MSI AB not working right with some titles (GTA IV and Killing Floor were the 2 big ones for me).

Ever since I started using the xcl method with stock and overclocked profiles as mentioned above...my issues have completely disappeared.

I did forget to mention, do NOT use CCC at all. Leave CCC alone as far as overclocking is concerned. MSI AB can do the +20% power tune. Plus you can have 2D / idle at stock (profile 1) with an overclocked +20% powertune profile for 3D / gaming use.
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well now that you mention it.

I haven't had issues with any other cards but with this 7970 I have experienced the very occasional lock up. Its only brief (maybe 10 seconds) but at this current time I had just put it down to poor drivers. It hasn't really been an issue for me as it is very rare and hasn't happened while gaming or anything like that.

Can't say I've experienced any of the other issues but I may have to give this xcl a go and see how I get on.

Edit: I've just remembered that I get my lock up even when it's not overclocked (hence why I assumed it may be driver related). I may still give your method a try though.

Either way OP has a couple of options and can see what suits him best.
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I did forget to mention, do NOT use CCC at all. Leave CCC alone as far as overclocking is concerned. MSI AB can do the +20% power tune.

I definately agree with this bit!
Edited by Jokah - 3/27/12 at 2:52pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post

I always ended up getting odd lock ups at idle due to using overclocked settings for 2D use (the jump from overclocked to the idle 2D clocks seems to be too much is my guess). I was also getting isuses of the clocks not functioning correctly, and MSI AB not working right with some titles (GTA IV and Killing Floor were the 2 big ones for me).
Ever since I started using the xcl method with stock and overclocked profiles as mentioned above...my issues have completely disappeared.
I did forget to mention, do NOT use CCC at all. Leave CCC alone as far as overclocking is concerned. MSI AB can do the +20% power tune. Plus you can have 2D / idle at stock (profile 1) with an overclocked +20% powertune profile for 3D / gaming use.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post

No, you should NOT be using "unofficial overclocking". It causes more problems than it solves....
Follow these steps. Make sure you checkmark the obvious "unlock voltage control" boxes in MSI AB settings, obviously. I figured that was implied when I made these steps:
1) Make sure unofficial overclocking in MSI AB is NOT turned on.
2) Run MSI AB with the xcl flag on first start. (Put -xcl at the end of the target in the shortcut).
3) MSI AB will say you need to restart, so restart. Do NOT restart MSI AB yet.
4) Once restarted, remove the xcl command out of the shortcut.
5) Start up MSI AB as normal.
6) Create a bone stock profile. Save as 1 (as an example). You CAN use a custom fan profile, but otherwise leave all settings stock.
7) Create your overclocked profile (again, a custom fan profile is preferred). Make sure you use +20% in settings for your overclocked profile.
8) Go to settings, scroll all the way over to the right to "Profiles". Set "2D" as your stock profile. Set "3D" as your overclocked profile.
9) Disable screensavers. You can have your monitors turn off, but no screensavers, as those put you into your 3D profile. Overclocked seems to be what causes idle lock ups.

Did all of the above and still not working.

Have night class untill 10PM PST frown.gif

Have a feeling I will be up late trying to figure it out, as it will bug me

Edit: Voltage is still greyed out, and the core clock / mem clock are capped at 1125/1545 or whatever the CCC cap is. <- in MSI AB
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Originally Posted by Twitt View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post

I always ended up getting odd lock ups at idle due to using overclocked settings for 2D use (the jump from overclocked to the idle 2D clocks seems to be too much is my guess). I was also getting isuses of the clocks not functioning correctly, and MSI AB not working right with some titles (GTA IV and Killing Floor were the 2 big ones for me).
Ever since I started using the xcl method with stock and overclocked profiles as mentioned above...my issues have completely disappeared.
I did forget to mention, do NOT use CCC at all. Leave CCC alone as far as overclocking is concerned. MSI AB can do the +20% power tune. Plus you can have 2D / idle at stock (profile 1) with an overclocked +20% powertune profile for 3D / gaming use.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post

No, you should NOT be using "unofficial overclocking". It causes more problems than it solves....
Follow these steps. Make sure you checkmark the obvious "unlock voltage control" boxes in MSI AB settings, obviously. I figured that was implied when I made these steps:
1) Make sure unofficial overclocking in MSI AB is NOT turned on.
2) Run MSI AB with the xcl flag on first start. (Put -xcl at the end of the target in the shortcut).
3) MSI AB will say you need to restart, so restart. Do NOT restart MSI AB yet.
4) Once restarted, remove the xcl command out of the shortcut.
5) Start up MSI AB as normal.
6) Create a bone stock profile. Save as 1 (as an example). You CAN use a custom fan profile, but otherwise leave all settings stock.
7) Create your overclocked profile (again, a custom fan profile is preferred). Make sure you use +20% in settings for your overclocked profile.
8) Go to settings, scroll all the way over to the right to "Profiles". Set "2D" as your stock profile. Set "3D" as your overclocked profile.
9) Disable screensavers. You can have your monitors turn off, but no screensavers, as those put you into your 3D profile. Overclocked seems to be what causes idle lock ups.

Did all of the above and still not working.

Have night class untill 10PM PST frown.gif

Have a feeling I will be up late trying to figure it out, as it will bug me

Edit: Voltage is still greyed out, and the core clock / mem clock are capped at 1125/1545 or whatever the CCC cap is. <- in MSI AB

Then you didn't apply xcl and restart. wink.gif

On your MSI AB shortcut, right click it, hit properties. In the TARGET field, after the quotes, add in -xcl. So your target line should read this (assuming default install location):
"C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\MSIAfterburner.exe" -xcl

Do this WITHOUT having MSI AB running....

Now, once that flag is added, run MSI AB. It'll say clock limits have been extended or something along those lines, and to please restart. Restart, remove the xcl tag, and then launch AB and it should be fixed.
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Thats exactly what I did and it never told me anything frown.gif but i will try again tonight.

Thanks for the help
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What version of MSI AB should I be running because nothing happens when I run the command with -xcl at the end.
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