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Why do i see so many reports about Degrading or problems at 1.40+ VCORE

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From what iv heard 1.40 or (1.42) What im running is safe according to most people on this forum. Im just getting a tad concerned when i look on google at some people reporting Degradation at even as low as 1.36??? I mean it could be temps. Do you think i will risk Electro Migration Damage from 1.42 max VCORE. Iv heard tons of people reporting no degrading at 1.4+ even 1.45 Even 1.5!! Do you think its hype or people just cant keep temps in check? I suppose what kills worse Electro Migration or heat. Open for discussion. Im just getting so much anxiety about running 1.42 VCORE @ 4.6 GHZ in HW monitor lol. 1.4 is new to me heh.
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post #2 of 7
I'd like to know how they are measuring this degradation. are they getting bsod with previous stable settings?

i say if your temps are good go for it.
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I can believe degradation as low as 1.4v in theory, however I believe these reports come from people being pig headed about stability. 30 minutes, 2 hours, even 12 hours of prime95 is not sufficient. I've seen people BSOD as far in as 19 hours. If you don't do thorough testing you will have a crash. It might take 6 months, but it will happen, and it could happen at the worst time possible. This is what I am doing currently:

IBT: 400 passes standard, auto threads.
Prime95: 24 hours custom blend, 90% mem.

With IBT the seesaw load made by standard passes really puts your offset/LLC settings to the test. Might be unnecessary if you're using a fixed voltage.

With prime possibly run both 26.6 and 27.4 for 24 hours each, as both seem to stress different things. 27 tends to droop vccio more and vcore less. I wish I could ditch one of these but at the moment it seems you need to do both.

I'm also debating running a HD movie on loop for 24 hours as that seems to be a reliable way to expose low load crashes.
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Yeah im running good as gold on 1.42 Volts @ 4.6 GHZ rightnow. IBT x 50 and Prime x 12 hours 10 min fft 90 percent ram.
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I ran my 2600K for about 6 months at 1.45v under full load the whole time. The motherboard died, so I replaced it with a GENE-Z and was able to achieve the exact same overclock but at 1.4v. Defiantly no degradation going on there.
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Full load for 6 months? What were you doing? Did you notice what increase it had on your electric bill
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I run f@h and if the electricity went up I didn't notice tongue.gif My bill bounces around a lot so it's hard to tell.
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