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There just has to be a case already imported into your country that someone wants to sell.Make a good search and use what you get as a base.Starting from scratch if you do not have the tools,skills,knowledge will be very tough.
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I'm not sure. I've got a heck of a lot of work now, and it's not something I want to rush into. I also want to have a look at Ivy Bridge first. I might be going to the US in July, if I decide to go Ivy, I feel I have the time and the materials/labor isn't too expensive, I'd do it about then (maybe I'll make the case earlier, again, depends on time and the cost).

Yea I know what you mean. You shouldn't want to rush something like that biggrin.gif. I can't wait to see it though. Also, I like the air flow design you did. thumb.gif
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There just has to be a case already imported into your country that someone wants to sell.Make a good search and use what you get as a base.Starting from scratch if you do not have the tools,skills,knowledge will be very tough.

There are cases imported, but the selection is very lame, for example, the SilverStone Temjin TJ08-E can't be found here, believe me, I've looked online and asked in three different stores. Ordering a case is not in question, as it would cost a ridiculous premium. So I'm down to buying a case (that I might not even like all that much) for some ridiculous price. I have a friend who works in a computer sales/repair store, and the cheapest he was able to get his HAF 922 was U$D200 (2.3 times the newegg price). I would hate to pay so much for a case I don't like.

If I'm going to mod seriously, I might as well go 100% of the way. I don't think there are many cases I could get here that I would like. I don't have many tools, but I have some, I almost always work on cars, woodworking, house stuff, basic furniture, etc. I'd be using an old MB tray, and the HDD, SSD and PSU would just be screwed on (i.e. I'd make holes in the right place). I'd have the bending, cutting, etc done for me. Then I'd do the smaller stuff (opening for the PSU, intakes/exhausts, drilling, etc) myself. As far as I know, I wouldn't need much more then a pen, a dremel, and a drill. I have a drill and a pen for sure (biggrin.gif), but I might not have a dremel, I can probably borrow one thou. So my big worry would be structural stability, but if it's made out of steel this shouldn't be much of a problem, right? I can always add a little extra support here and there I guess...

Or, does anyone think a basic Mid Tower/Micro ATX (think as in Pentium 1 or something) case can be completely stripped down and turned into something like this? I would still have a lot of work (everything except the MB tray and frame I guess), but maybe then I'd have a basic structure? The problem with this would be issues like the CPU cooler clearance, it would be much larger, and I probably wouldn't be able to get the airflow as I do in my design.
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There are cases imported, but the selection is very lame, for example, the SilverStone Temjin TJ08-E can't be found here, believe me, I've looked online and asked in three different stores. Ordering a case is not in question, as it would cost a ridiculous premium. So I'm down to buying a case (that I might not even like all that much) for some ridiculous price. I have a friend who works in a computer sales/repair store, and the cheapest he was able to get his HAF 922 was U$D200 (2.3 times the newegg price). I would hate to pay so much for a case I don't like.
If I'm going to mod seriously, I might as well go 100% of the way. I don't think there are many cases I could get here that I would like. I don't have many tools, but I have some, I almost always work on cars, woodworking, house stuff, basic furniture, etc. I'd be using an old MB tray, and the HDD, SSD and PSU would just be screwed on (i.e. I'd make holes in the right place). I'd have the bending, cutting, etc done for me. Then I'd do the smaller stuff (opening for the PSU, intakes/exhausts, drilling, etc) myself. As far as I know, I wouldn't need much more then a pen, a dremel, and a drill. I have a drill and a pen for sure (biggrin.gif), but I might not have a dremel, I can probably borrow one thou. So my big worry would be structural stability, but if it's made out of steel this shouldn't be much of a problem, right? I can always add a little extra support here and there I guess...
Or, does anyone think a basic Mid Tower/Micro ATX (think as in Pentium 1 or something) case can be completely stripped down and turned into something like this? I would still have a lot of work (everything except the MB tray and frame I guess), but maybe then I'd have a basic structure? The problem with this would be issues like the CPU cooler clearance, it would be much larger, and I probably wouldn't be able to get the airflow as I do in my design.

No no try to mod all the way that would be really cool and since you prefer to mod all the way, but instead get a case then mod it you wouldn't be as satisfied as if you were to mod it all the way. Plus it would be awesomERRRRR
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I've been practicing with sketchup, and now have it down to a science smile.gif. I decided I'd finally go with modding a mid ATX or mini ATX (the latter may prove hard to find cheap, the mid tower I should be able to get for free), since It'll be cheaper & easier. I've been playing with ideas on how to make it easy and nice, and I ended up with the following:
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These are some preliminary renders (notice the graininess, the internal PSU/CPU compartment wall is black (but hasn't been rendered yet, some textures are off, etc). It takes years to render, because of the parts like the heatsink, which are extremely complex reflective surfaces. And in case you are wondering, that black square in the middle is a 120mm (in case I want/need to add a fan) intake, that has a little "flow" director on the bottom so that the air comes from the front and not the bottom.
EDIT: There aren't two HDDs as you may be inclined to think based on renders two and three, I moved it since I rendered two. There are minor changes all over the place in between the renders. Also, I'm planning on making the front white, and the back, top & sides black (al polycarbonate), whoever in some of the renders it's white, this may be due to the IOR (reflectivness, i.e. I may need to lower it) or the unfinished render.

The advantages of this mod are:
  • Can be done with most mid towers or mini towers
  • The exterior needs little modification: just screw right thru the side panels, etc. Then glue polycarbonate sheets on top (or screw them in with a few aesthetic screws). Also, no need to paint (except maybe exposed metal parts, like the bottom, but not *necessary*).
  • Little metal work: only need to remove HDD/ODD tray and make mesh/filter cutouts (except rear 120mm probably). Maybe make a front panel to go under the white slab of polycarbonate. Also, maybe some other little things here and there, a way to mount the psu, etc.
  • It *may* be possible to keep the PSU rails. This would depend on the case. If slightly wider than a 3.5" HDD, this would be an excellent way to mount the HDD (in between the two rails, with some vibration dampening of course). This would also make four much better HDD cooling, and maybe even allow for the mounting of two HDDs.
  • If you make double compartment separators you can stick noise/thermal isolation material in between (like the engineers over at Apple did with the Power Mac G5, I believe), or you can always just stick it to side of a single panel, just won't look all that good.
  • Many nice little features can be added. I'm looking into making power and reset switches light up (green and orange/yellow respectively, I'm not happy with the colors in the renders but oh well), pulse while asleep and, oh yeah, be capacitive wink.gif . I might ditch the LEDs thou, and just make a part of the polycarbonate surface touch sensitive, and draw a circle with power and reset symbols in these areas.

The issues:
  • Finding a case that has "plain" side, bottom & top panels; enough space in between the MB tray and the side panel (bottom after the mod) for cable routing; the right space in between the PSU rails and top (if I am to implement my mounting idea); has a removable front panel, which can be replaced by a sheet of steel easily.
  • Might not look all that clean with cables going to the DVD drive, etc.
  • Has a 120mm fan on the back (many small/cheap/old cases only have a 80mm
  • Is ATX (believe it or not, my "Pentium with MMX" is not ATX, or BTX for that matter, maybe it was made before ATX tongue.gif .

I appreciate any comments, feedback, etc.
Edited by adriangb - 4/2/12 at 10:13pm
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post #16 of 19
interesting render but why all the extra room?
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interesting render but why all the extra room?

I'm using the trial version of Indigo (great renderer BTW, just very slow -it's unbiased), which only allows up to 0.7Mpx renders, which means to get the best detail I need to zoom in, thous making each part of the build "higher res". Another reason for the "lower res" is faster render times.
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post #18 of 19
the case kinda feels like a lay down mid ATX case . but looks good smile.gif

i know how u feel , im from puerto rico , and the only store i got to get good PC parts.... CompUSA , yeah , that store LOL they got Corsair Cooler Master NZXT and Silverstone , but they dont have them all , just the cheap-nobody-buys cases LOL

estamos jodios ;_;
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the case kinda feels like a lay down mid ATX case . but looks good smile.gif
i know how u feel , im from puerto rico , and the only store i got to get good PC parts.... CompUSA , yeah , that store LOL they got Corsair Cooler Master NZXT and Silverstone , but they dont have them all , just the cheap-nobody-buys cases LOL
estamos jodios ;_;

The first of the two designs is a scratch build, i.e. not made from any case, the second one IS a lay down mid tower, I actually started off a mid tower, to make sure I had the right dimensions.
Well at least Puerto Rico has some trafic with the US, here there isn't even a CompUSA, there is literally no "midrange" cases, they get imported by "hand" and the markup on them is over 100%. The policy on imports is the worst, basically tex the f***k out of everything, in the name of "protecting the national industry". That means the makers of cheap crummy cases, I imagine the problem is the same for many other things, but the goverment won't make the distinction in between good cases and bad ones, or sports products (I play roller hockey, and since no gear is made here... well again, 100% markups at least, and that's on 200U$D sticks that might not last half a year).

En la lona diría yo.
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