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hwmonitor, core temp, aida are all giving me the same temps.

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I usually go with TMPIN, run a stress test program and keep an eye on both the TMPIN and core temps and then split the difference i.e. TMPIN shows 50c and core shows 40c...just estimate around 45c ish core temp...in reality the core temp would not really be as high as the socket temp (TMPIN)
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I usually go with TMPIN, run a stress test program and keep an eye on both the TMPIN and core temps and then split the difference i.e. TMPIN shows 50c and core shows 40c...just estimate around 45c ish core temp...in reality the core temp would not really be as high as the socket temp (TMPIN)

under load i get around 45 on the socket and 20 on the core

how would i calculate that?
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there is a thread floating around were someone contacted amd and ask which temp they should use for overclocking.
there response was the core temp.
the socket temp is more accurate at idle temps where as it gets less accurate the hotter it gets. the core temp is less accurate the colder it gets thus why you see such low temps at idle, but is more accurate when stress testing at high temps

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Originally Posted by Halostryker View Post

there is a thread floating around were someone contacted amd and ask which temp they should use for overclocking.
there response was the core temp.
the socket temp is more accurate at idle temps where as it gets less accurate the hotter it gets. the core temp is less accurate the colder it gets thus why you see such low temps at idle, but is more accurate when stress testing at high temps
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so 20C at full load 4ghz 1.2v is more accurate then the socket?

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so 20C at full load 4ghz 1.2v is more accurate then the socket?
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well it is a smaller die size then what your use to so yes, here is the thread
http://www.overclock.net/t/1128821/amd-temp-information-and-guide
 
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well it is a smaller die size then what your use to so yes, here is the thread
http://www.overclock.net/t/1128821/amd-temp-information-and-guide

so at 20c im well below the threshold. is it safe to be ocing on my 3+1 board though. i added some copper sinks to the vrm's
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so at 20c im well below the threshold. is it safe to be ocing on my 3+1 board though. i added some copper sinks to the vrm's

It is well below for your cpu yes, but for that board I would not recommend overclocking even with the copper heat sinks.


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Phase count can still matter. Most of the culprits for VRM failures are the lower end 4+1 phase and 3+1 phase motherboards that aren't equipped to handle processors that consume lots of power and may be overclocked. Failures on motherboards with higher phase counts have been relatively infrequent - so infrequent that it can be called rare.
Source: xd_1771

the article below will tell you more.

http://www.overclock.net/t/943109/about-vrms-mosfets-motherboard-safety-with-125w-tdp-processors
 
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It is well below for your cpu yes, but for that board I would not recommend overclocking even with the copper heat sinks.
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Phase count can still matter. Most of the culprits for VRM failures are the lower end 4+1 phase and 3+1 phase motherboards that aren't equipped to handle processors that consume lots of power and may be overclocked. Failures on motherboards with higher phase counts have been relatively infrequent - so infrequent that it can be called rare.
Source: xd_1771
the article below will tell you more.
http://www.overclock.net/t/943109/about-vrms-mosfets-motherboard-safety-with-125w-tdp-processors

on my last gigabyte board which was a 890gpa ud3 4+1 board i was told it wouldnt oc and burn out soon

ran a 955 c3 1.5v @4.2ghz for months and it never failed on me

are you telling me for a fact my current board wont OC or is it just the 3+1 thats making you say this
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People get all spastic over VRM phases because they do not understand that the number of phases has nothing to do with the current capacity of the circuit. More phases provides a smoother current supply, i.e. less ripple. It has nothing to do with the actual Quantity of amps. a VRM can provide but with Net WizDUMB more is better so 3 or 4 phase can't possibly be good for OC'ing... /S. rolleyes.gif

As far as temp offset, do not use one. Core Temp has the proper offset so if you add an ofset in the BIOS you have doubled the offset.
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