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Same thing goes with Steam. If Steam servers go down when you launch your game, you can't play that game. It's happened to me frequently enough. They're usually pretty good and come back within an hour or so, but it happens and it's not uncommon.
Again, the parallels between this and Steam are pretty much identical, yet Steam is okay--probably because they appear to show respect for their users--whereas EA is not because everyone hates on EA. But the actual deployment of the game and talking to servers is the same in both cases.
10 years down the road...who knows. That population would be so small it's insignificant. Sure, they'd be screwed, but on the other hand people--rumored to be true for Steam as well--say that games would be "unlocked" with a patch from the publisher/distributor, it's a non-issue.

The steam "offline" mode is something that I've brought up in descussions about this always-on thing, and everyone dismisses it. If I remember correctly, origin does not need to be turned "off" to be used offline. I only have 1 game on origin, so it's probally a per-game thing. Anyways, I can launch singleplayer in bf3 if I've "remembered" my password and i'm booting the system offline.

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10 years down the road. This is what's so frustrating. I will have all of my computers 10 years down the road, and I get pretty nostalgic. This always on requirement won't get the attention it deserves until they take this first major game authentication servers down. That will be years down the road. What will happen to these games when they reach legacy status (7 yrs old).

The frustrating part is that users that choose to protest via no purchase get the short end of the stick.The never get to play the game, and the industry continues to move to the always-on requirement.

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My question is, what happens when they stop hosting the authentication servers? No more simcity?
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I honestly feel people take the whole "Origin/EA/My personal data" too seriously... EA is not going to steal your credit card and buy porn geez... (Personal Data when it comes to Origin/EA)
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The steam "offline" mode is something that I've brought up in descussions about this always-on thing, and everyone dismisses it. If I remember correctly, origin does not need to be turned "off" to be used offline. I only have 1 game on origin, so it's probally a per-game thing. Anyways, I can launch singleplayer in bf3 if I've "remembered" my password and i'm booting the system offline.
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10 years down the road. This is what's so frustrating. I will have all of my computers 10 years down the road, and I get pretty nostalgic. This always on requirement won't get the attention it deserves until they take this first major game authentication servers down. That will be years down the road. What will happen to these games when they reach legacy status (7 yrs old).
The frustrating part is that users that choose to protest via no purchase get the short end of the stick.The never get to play the game, and the industry continues to move to the always-on requirement.
Oh the infrastructure.
Dismisses it...in what context? Like "oh, it's okay, Steam has offline mode, so that makes everything fine"?

What's interesting and I just learned from a few posts up is that unless you start Steam online and then enable offline mode, you cannot simply not have internet access and be able to launch your steam games--you first have to tell it (steam server) you're going offline (and then you have 90 days within which to go back online again).
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My question is, what happens when they stop hosting the authentication servers? No more simcity?
Pretty much, unless they disable the requirement to be connected (via a patch). Just like Steam games.
    
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I honestly feel people take the whole "Origin/EA/My personal data" too seriously... EA is not going to steal your credit card and buy porn geez... (Personal Data when it comes to Origin/EA)

doh.gif You miss the whole point. Why let a company have access to you whole computer. You wouldn't let Joe Smo down the street have access to that data. And don't give me this crap of "Oh they won't do that" BS! When it's very obvious EA will do anything to make a dollar and to me that would include stealing it's customers data and selling it.
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doh.gif You miss the whole point. Why let a company have access to you whole computer. You wouldn't let Joe Smo down the street have access to that data. And don't give me this crap of "Oh they won't do that" BS! When it's very obvious EA will do anything to make a dollar and to me that would include stealing it's customers data and selling it.

Is it known that EA or whomever will have access to your whole computer? I know I'm beating a dead horse with the steam comparison, but steam is running the whole time in the background--is it scanning your whole computer and sending info back? Is that okay? Because everyone doesn't seem to care about that.
    
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doh.gif You miss the whole point. Why let a company have access to you whole computer. You wouldn't let Joe Smo down the street have access to that data. And don't give me this crap of "Oh they won't do that" BS! When it's very obvious EA will do anything to make a dollar and to me that would include stealing it's customers data and selling it.

Is it known that EA or whomever will have access to your whole computer? I know I'm beating a dead horse with the steam comparison, but steam is running the whole time in the background--is it scanning your whole computer and sending info back? Is that okay? Because everyone doesn't seem to care about that.

I never mentioned anything about steam and if they do/did do that I would be completely against that as well.
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I never mentioned anything about steam and if they do/did do that I would be completely against that as well.

I know--I'm not saying that you did bring up steam--just going back to the comparisons of an "always on" game like this, and any game that goes through steam, which undergoes the same thing with the same pitfalls yet no one seems to care since it's steam.

I don't think--or rather, I would like to not think--that the use of an "always on" service for a game is just some under-hand method to datamine your computer. I don't really understand what they'd benefit from doing that in the first place, plus people (not me) are generally smart enough to find out what's being sent/received through that connection.
    
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Dismisses it...in what context? Like "oh, it's okay, Steam has offline mode, so that makes everything fine"?
What's interesting and I just learned from a few posts up is that unless you start Steam online and then enable offline mode, you cannot simply not have internet access and be able to launch your steam games--you first have to tell it (steam server) you're going offline (and then you have 90 days within which to go back online again).
Pretty much, unless they disable the requirement to be connected (via a patch). Just like Steam games.

Exactly.

If steam ever goes belly up. They've promised to release the "master code" or whatever to unlock what you own. I hope this isn't prevented by publishers.

I'm having a case of get off my porch: The longer the market continues in this direction, the less control we will be in of the products we purchase, less a chance of enjoying them in the future when I'm in my golden years.
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I'm having a case of get of my porch: The longer the market continues in this direction, the less control we will be in of the products we purchase, less a chance of enjoying them in the future when I'm in my golden years.

I know how you feel. That's why I keep a ample supply of SNES and Genesis consoles for my decrepit days biggrin.gif
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