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I would not be able to play Sim City 2000 now if it used the same always online DRM as Sim City 5. EA will shut down their servers. Always online means an expensive rental.
Sim City 2000 > any recent Sim City game.
By that notion then everything we play through Steam is as well, you just have a little more dwell between when you have to reconnect to the mothership. I'm not disagreeing, just playing the devil's advocate.
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It is the principle of the matter. The developers are basically accusing all of their consumers of being a pirate and thus they penalize everyone. They need to take a page from Valve's playbook and just make decent games and taken care of their customers. Oh well, a game that I will not be buying. Sad really because I would have bought it in the end if this always on BS didn't surface.

People who play games generally (and I know that doesn't mean universally) have active internet connections. How is this penalizing the general user?

All that being said, I'd love it if a major game developer released a reputable game from an established franchise without any DRM--and advertised it as DRM-free as a sign of respect to their client-base, and see if it affects sales (meaning, more people are likely to sponsor that attitude and buy the game). And track the extent of unauthorized play to see if it has a correlation. Just once I'd like to see that happen.
    
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The Sims 3 always acted like online was important in the main-game when it wasn't, it was mostly there for micro-transactions and Facebook fanatic users.
It wasn't always that way. It was only rather recently, with the latest major updates (the release of Showtime) that this online stuff was more pushed, what with profiles on the official site getting a Facebook-esque approach.
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1) Steam has an offline mode THAT WORKS. I can play any of my Steam games (valve or not) offline.
2) Valve has earned the communities trust. EA has burned it time and time again.
3) It's also a convenience issue. I have over 200 games on Steam. Why would I want to launch a garbage client that's incredibly buggy and potentially invasive...to play one or two games?

EA may be a crap company that constantly tried to screw its fan base but Origin is not a buggy and invasive program. I have been using it ever since I activated BFBC2 on it and have been using it ever since.

Objectively speaking steam has crashed far more than Origin, and Steam actually bugs out on my quite often to be completely honest. The only thing I have against Origin as a platform is that EA charges sales tax, which I get around by simply changing my province/state to get the lowest sales tax. Actually EA does not even manage payment themselves, they outsource it to another company.

Since Steam has never charged me sales tax that is probably the main reason why I will always buy from Steam over Origin.

The reason I don't buy EA games is not because of Origin, it's because of EA's business practices.
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1) Steam has an offline mode THAT WORKS. I can play any of my Steam games (valve or not) offline.
2) Valve has earned the communities trust. EA has burned it time and time again.
3) It's also a convenience issue. I have over 200 games on Steam. Why would I want to launch a garbage client that's incredibly buggy and potentially invasive...to play one or two games?

This has been brought up before--yes, Steam's offline mode works, but only if you re-connect every so-often. I think once a week, or once every 30 days, correct? If Steam in its current version goes down and never comes back, gone along with that is any game affiliated with it. It's no better than any other "connected" game.
    
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I'll rather there be 2 options.. Single player (your own economy) and multiplayer (with some random battlelog-esk thing going on)...

Seem's like a better solution then having to have a dirty DRM scheme
NEWS FLASH: We dont want to be online all the time, yet the future is an always online experience?!?!
Implement this scheme when such a experience is available to the public like... air..
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Imagine how much money they lost from this.
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1) Steam has an offline mode THAT WORKS. I can play any of my Steam games (valve or not) offline.
2) Valve has earned the communities trust. EA has burned it time and time again.
3) It's also a convenience issue. I have over 200 games on Steam. Why would I want to launch a garbage client that's incredibly buggy and potentially invasive...to play one or two games?

This has been brought up before--yes, Steam's offline mode works, but only if you re-connect every so-often. I think once a week, or once every 30 days, correct? If Steam in its current version goes down and never comes back, gone along with that is any game affiliated with it. It's no better than any other "connected" game.

You have to reconnect at least once every 90 days. I'm sure just about everybody can connect to the internet for 5 minutes every 90 days. I know this, because I use offline mode with my Steam account on my HTPC...so I can play my games there while I'm still online on my main rig.

Valve has already stated that if Steam goes down, then the users won't lose their games. I forget exactly how, as that was years ago.
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This has been brought up before--yes, Steam's offline mode works, but only if you re-connect every so-often. I think once a week, or once every 30 days, correct? If Steam in its current version goes down and never comes back, gone along with that is any game affiliated with it. It's no better than any other "connected" game.

Guy, isn't Sim City 5 going to require a constant internet connection like Ubisoft Uplay? This seems to be a rehash of Sim Societies MMO that did not work out.
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I really don't see a problem with this, mostly because we all internet. I have a feeling that the success of this game will be dependent on the internet connection anyways. It will be like a MMO than anything else. This would be like saying that EVE shouldn't need to have constant internet connection.

This might not be the Sim City that we have grown to love, change can be good.
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We'll have to wait until we're closer to the game's release to come to concrete conclusions, in my opinion. I'm sure many decisions are still in flux.
    
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