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Is Tom losing it?

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#1 ·
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n my initial analysis, I concluded that the Radeon HD 7970 would need to drop $100. I'd be comfortable revising that to $75.Right now, at $550, the company is charging more for a lower-performing product, and that's a bad combination.
So I read the review Tomshardware on GTX 680 where he makes a call that 7970 should be $75 cheaper as a "slower card", but fails completely to mention that 7970 has 3G of VRAM vs GTX's 2G. Nvidia has been cheap on VRAM with all of their models lately. We see some models that have 1G more than others and cost $50 more, so iit makes sense to at least mention that in favor of 7970. I know most games won't make use of it, but if nothing, the card is more future-proof. When I bought my GTX 260 the VRAM on it was more than any game needed and now I am being limited by it.

Then he makes a system builder's marathon for $2600 after the 680 review and says:
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We want nothing but the best for our most expensive build. However, the ultimate configuration would have been more than one Radeon HD 7970. It's too bad that we had to make a compromise
What the quack???

I'm no fanboy - I've used Nvidia and ATI before. I'll use whatever brand gives me most bang for the buck. All I can say that this is a case of poor writing/analysis or Tom simply losing his mind slowly.
 
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Because we all know that more memory = better performance? Memory isn't a limiting factor in 99% of games, basically everything except for Metro2033 @ 2560 x 1600, or when you start dealing with Surround / eyefinity resolutions, in which I've never seen the point of running such high resolutions via a single card.

The 7970 SHOULD be lower priced as it doesn't perform as well as the 680, no reason to pay more $$ for an under performing card.

Those marathon builds are planned well in advance, and since the 680 was such a new release, I'm fairly certain that they wouldn't have had the opportunity to include it and do all the benchmarks, not trying to defend Tomshardware, its interesting to read, but sometimes they do make dumb choices IMO for their budget builds just to have something different.
 
#4 ·
If you read the comments on the system builder guide, they say the decisions for the builds were already made well in advance of the gtx 680 dropping.

I agree though, I read the review then the guide and thought, what the hell?? I think they should have either waited to put the list together, or adjusted it.
 
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gpu memory is only good if it get used!if internet is plagued with bufferbloat,i suspect most of the component suffer from bufferbloat at other point in the computer!harder to test since here we dont talk of university 40 gb /s pipe but more like 100 or 200 gb per second pipe or more on the gpu side !how you test bufferbloat on those monster?i bet not many knows !
 
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Originally Posted by appleg33k85 View Post

Because we all know that more memory = better performance. Memory isn't a limiting factor
Maybe read what the OP said before you post?
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Originally Posted by aggsliota View Post

If you read the comments on the system builder guide, they say the decisions for the builds were already made well in advance of the gtx 680 dropping.
I agree though, I read the review then the guide and thought, what the hell?? I think they should have either waited to put the list together, or adjusted it.
Maybe I read what Tom said before I post? Thanks!
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Yah, he sholu'd've pointed it out on the GPU page or invalidate and rewrite the section.
 
#8 ·
I used to put a lot more value in TH, but for whatever reason, over at least the past couple years (if not more), their articles, reviews, and evaluations have a lot of crap illogical or nonsensical conclusions and discussions. It's like you want to do a scientific test of something, but then you don't even understand the factors affecting your results. It's disappointed.

What I hate is how people IMMEDIATELY discount something when they see it's from Tom's. At least read through it first. Maybe this one time you'll be pleasantly surprised.
 
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