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Since MineCraft is still single threaded going for a CPU with the highest single thread performance possible. A "k" series processor will be of no benefit with the h67 board since h67 offers no overclocking what so ever. The ram right now is pretty overkill, unless you plan to host over 30 people on a single server at a time I see no reason to have 16gb of ram for a small server build.
Other than that this build looks good. Just make sure you seal up the case really well and get good fans and dust filters, that will be the biggest ailment of a minecraft server like this.
Truly I'd just host in the cloud, I have a quad core Xenon with 8gb ram and perfect internet for free right now (beta user), and even when they start charging for the service it will be less expensive than purchasing all of the hardware, paying for power consumption and removing the minimal amount of heat that the server will produce. Also with a cloud server you can simply audit from anywhere and the hardware is monitored 24/7.
I'd go for cloud hosting if you're this serious.
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ahh weird, i put together last week a similar build to your redux 2 (zotac itx, memory, 2500k, and corsair force gt)

hmmm but just saying if you do put in a h60 into the case your going to need to remove the cd/hdd cage for it to fit, although you might be able to get the cd drive to fit with the removal of the hdd cage part (got a SG05 and a h60 with me right now actually on my travels) smile.gif

Edit: if your going to go with a 2500k and a z68 board, it might be worth getting a good/high-end cooler for overclocking but IMO with a i5 2500 and a z68/h67 a stock cooler should work fine all the way up to a high end cooler. Ive ran in the past a 2500k with a stock cooler at stock speeds for awhile and everything worked out fine tongue.gif

other then that everything looks good
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^ yes and no... its obvius that cloud would be a better way to go.. however sometimes building a server has it bonouses too...

i would say stick with 16gb of ram.. if your rlying thinking you might get 30 ppl on at once or have 2 or 3 servers set up you will need the ram and the cores... if your gonna get a z board grab the k cpu so you can oc it, but if not its not ahuge deal. You wont notice to much diffrence in game play as its a simple server to run. The ssd size of 64gb is good. You may want to pick up a second one at one point for backups, as having a server running for a year with 30 players can and will eat up file size, but that is your call.
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Been hosting MC servers for almost 2 years now wink.gif

The build you posted should work fine, just dont go above 100 players.
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Woha, a lot of replies in a short period of time.
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Since MineCraft is still single threaded going for a CPU with the highest single thread performance possible. A "k" series processor will be of no benefit with the h67 board since h67 offers no overclocking what so ever. The ram right now is pretty overkill, unless you plan to host over 30 people on a single server at a time I see no reason to have 16gb of ram for a small server build.
Other than that this build looks good. Just make sure you seal up the case really well and get good fans and dust filters, that will be the biggest ailment of a minecraft server like this.
Truly I'd just host in the cloud, I have a quad core Xenon with 8gb ram and perfect internet for free right now (beta user), and even when they start charging for the service it will be less expensive than purchasing all of the hardware, paying for power consumption and removing the minimal amount of heat that the server will produce. Also with a cloud server you can simply audit from anywhere and the hardware is monitored 24/7.
I'd go for cloud hosting if you're this serious.

You should look at the most recent build, and let me know if you think that one would work better... I have always felt that a server in front of you is many times more powerful than one that isn't, simply because of the ease of access (I have had nothing but trouble with remote servers)... Also, looking at hosting services for dedicated Minecraft servers, they were not at all cost efficient compared to building one (I am doing this not for myself but for a cross-college club, I should note)... We have over 200 players that want slots, and in just 1 year that ends up costing more than the budget of this server! (We don't pay for internet or power since this will live at a school, so that could be making the difference)!
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if your going to go with a 2500k and a z68 board, it might be worth getting a good/high-end cooler for overclocking but IMO with a i5 2500 and a z68/h67 a stock cooler should work fine all the way up to a high end cooler. Ive ran in the past a 2500k with a stock cooler at stock speeds for awhile and everything worked out fine

I would like to OC as much as possible, but the H60 is about the best I can do with the budget im given... I know an H80 would fit but its too much money, unless someone knows how I could lower current costs for parts?
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i would say stick with 16gb of ram.. if your rlying thinking you might get 30 ppl on at once or have 2 or 3 servers set up you will need the ram and the cores... if your gonna get a z board grab the k cpu so you can oc it, but if not its not ahuge deal. You wont notice to much diffrence in game play as its a simple server to run. The ssd size of 64gb is good. You may want to pick up a second one at one point for backups, as having a server running for a year with 30 players can and will eat up file size, but that is your call.

I am getting concerned over how conflicted people on this thread alone are over the RAM amount. Not really knowing what the peak load on the server doesnt help, but is 16GB over 8GB needed if that number is about 50? About 75? 100?

I do intend to add storage over time, but that's in the future; for now, 60GB is IMO plenty.
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Been hosting MC servers for almost 2 years now

The build you posted should work fine, just dont go above 100 players.

What is the limiting factor? Can you please give me an idea as to how many resources each player needs? Each server? That would make it immeasurably easier to shop for parts...
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well when i had mine going i jsut utalized all the ram but 1 gig i had 11gb of ram on my server was able to handle 12 players on the same map with about 10 or 11 mods for a solid year before i took it down... realisticly 8gb is enough becuase it will use what ever you give it.. but if you pan on having 3 worlds you might want 5gb for each one... just MHO
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Originally Posted by VGM10000 View Post

I would like to OC as much as possible, but the H60 is about the best I can do with the budget im given... I know an H80 would fit but its too much money, unless someone knows how I could lower current costs for parts?

*snip*

hmm currently amazon has the corsair h60 for $55, so that can help save a few dollars tongue.gif and newegg has the Corsair force 3 60gb SSD for $65 (after a $15 mail in rebate and use code: SSDSPEC15 to knock off another $15) hmmm... save a few dolors overall
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hmm currently amazon has the corsair h60 for $55, so that can help save a few dollars tongue.gif and newegg has the Corsair force 3 60gb SSD for $65 (after a $15 mail in rebate and use code: SSDSPEC15 to knock off another $15) hmmm... save a few dolors overall

You, sir (or mam), are awesome.

Ok, so this is the build Rev. 3:

SilverStone Sugo SG05-B Black SECC / Plastic Mini-ITX Desktop Computer Case SFX 300W 80Plus Power Supply
Newegg, $104.99

SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MV-3V4G3D/US
Newegg, $47.99

Open Box: ASRock Z68M-ITX/HT LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard
Newegg, $92.99

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
Newegg, $204.99 (inc. $15.00 promo)

Corsair Force Series 3 CSSD-F60GB3A-BK 2.5" 60GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Newegg, $79.99 (inc. $15.00 promo, can get $15 MIR too)

Corsair Cooling Hydro-Series All-in-One High-Performance Liquid CPU Cooler CWCH60
Amazon, $55.93

TOTAL: $586.88

Awesome! What else...

UPDATE: According to http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/, with 8GB of memory the limit as to how many clients I could have is 61, which funnily enough is about in the middle of the range of what people were throwing (anywhere from 20 to 150 here and on other threads)... I am wondering if that is enough for peak load of a server that is expected to serve ~235 players, but I am inclined to think so only because most of those players get on every now and then, rather than consistently.
Edited by VGM10000 - 3/29/12 at 11:09am
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thats actually rather impressive......
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hmmm.. think thats about as low as i can figure out with pretty similar/ same parts, only other things i can think of but will only save a few dollars. JR.com and buy.com has the memory for $1 less with free shipping and frys has the case for $100 for local pick up (since shipping is ~$8 or something) but yeah not sure where tax is for you so might be more frown.gif .

There has been the Antec KUHLER 620 for $40-50 (usually closer to $50-55) which is similar to the H60 but dont think there are any current deals on it right now

Edit: amazon has the patriot pyro ssd for $60 after $25 mir, dont know to much about the ssd though

wink.gif I guess can say shopping is another one of my hobbies

but for sub $600 .. i would say thats a pretty nice system tongue.gif
Edited by DNytAftr - 3/29/12 at 11:17am
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