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Most important thing for a minecraft server is CPU speed. Any MC server should be an overclock-able board and a K series processor.

Since it is multithreaded and a server, speed is less important than core count. I am pretty sure that the server client is capable of using 8 threads, so you might want to look into a Xeon E3 processor that is a little slower, but with more cores. Remember that this is a server, not a desktop so clockspeed isn't as important. I also did some more reading that the first (more expensive) NIC has better latency and throughput than the second (cheaper), but that both should offer improvements for servers over onboard.


Umm, no. I work extensively with the Minecraft server source code.
The minecraft server is capable of using 1 thread, and 1 thread only, with one exception of world data saving, but I digress. Everything is ran on one thread basically.
So, you should have the fastest processor speed possible, not more cores.

That right there is what the internet has been telling me so far. And it is making it very hard to determine how to build for this... tongue.gif
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@VGM
Heres what you need.

First: A fast CPU is essential. The best servers I've worked with run at 4.8Ghz, although they were hosting a ton of players.
Second: Next important is RAM: Depending on plugins and players, you could easily go over 16GB. I think you'll be fine.
Third: Hard drive speed: The Minecraft world format is much better, but you should still get a quality drive.
Fourth: NIC: I've never seen a NIC play much importance, but a dedicated one can show some returns.
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Not sure if you need to go M-ITX for portability. You could shave some $$$ and get a better product by going M-ATX, and it's still a small form factor.

Here's a decent Case $50

CPU+MOBO Combo $320

Samsungs $47 x 2 (You can fit 16GB on the above MOBO)

Your Crucial MB SSD $95


Total Price $559 (Leaves room for taxes and shipping)
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Not sure if you need to go M-ITX for portability. You could shave some $$$ and get a better product by going M-ATX, and it's still a small form factor.
Here's a decent Case $50
CPU+MOBO Combo $320
Samsungs $47 x 2 (You can fit 16GB on the above MOBO)
Your Crucial MB SSD $95
Total Price $559 (Leaves room for taxes and shipping)

+1

Just remember to OC that CPU thumb.gif
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Why hello there.

MC server only use two threads so anything with more than 2 cores wont really help. MC servers benifit a lot from higher clock speed as well. The best thing you can do is get a 2500K and OC it to around 4-4.5ghz. For a normal server 4GB of ram will be enough for the server so you dont need more than 8GBs of system ram. If you can squeeze and SSD into your budget to run the server files off of that will help a lot too. You want the strongest core you can get for MC, not more cores. If there was an unlocked i3 that would be perfect.
    
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Just remember to OC that CPU thumb.gif

Yeah I guess I was confused and only saving is multithreaded as you suggested, not the entire thing. In that case, get the i5-2500k and the expensive NIC if you get the rebate and discount on the chip thumb.gif

P.S. Working with the source code, eh? Work on making it multithreaded! I know it's a big task, but it's a server!
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Not sure if you need to go M-ITX for portability. You could shave some $$$ and get a better product by going M-ATX, and it's still a small form factor.

I want to do that, but I was asked to stick with ITX for the sake of portability.

That being said, if I can make a really freaking awesome mATX build, I think the club will have a change of heart...

Let me see if I can make a prospective build in a mATX case, and see where it goes.
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Why hello there.
MC server only use two threads so anything with more than 2 cores wont really help. MC servers benifit a lot from higher clock speed as well. The best thing you can do is get a 2500K and OC it to around 4-4.5ghz. For a normal server 4GB of ram will be enough for the server so you dont need more than 8GBs of system ram. If you can squeeze and SSD into your budget to run the server files off of that will help a lot too. You want the strongest core you can get for MC, not more cores. If there was an unlocked i3 that would be perfect.

But what about multiple servers? Having 3 worlds would use all the threads, right?

Back to looking for parts tongue.gif
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@VGM10000

Multiple worlds on the same server still run on one thread.
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Multiple worlds on the same server still run on one thread.

You could always start up another java VM with another instance running on a different port (25566 for example) and would take advantage of the extra computing power
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@dizzy4

If you mean running 2 separate servers, theres no point. It'd be better to have 2 worlds on 1 server, than 2 servers with 1 world each.
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