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@dizzy4
If you mean running 2 separate servers, theres no point. It'd be better to have 2 worlds on 1 server, than 2 servers with 1 world each.

Not by my math... even if I managed to get an i3 at 6Ghz, across 3 servers thsts 2ghz of power each, but 3.3ghz per server on the stock clock of the 2500k...

I dont understand how something as simple as threading is "controversial" in the sense that everyone disagrees, but everyone thinks that they are right...
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@dizzy4
If you mean running 2 separate servers, theres no point. It'd be better to have 2 worlds on 1 server, than 2 servers with 1 world each.

Yep. I was merely suggesting that is performance starts to suffer one of the worlds could be put into another Java Machine if needed. I am totally on board with an overlocked 2500k now, by the way. Still I think if you will have 100+ users potentially, a NIC would be a decent addition.
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Its not that simple, and I can assure I am correct.

Lets just do a simple number demonstration.

Server 1:
1GB of ram used default
Add plugins, bumps it 250mb
1 world on, used 500mb

Great, were using 1750mb, w/o players.
You want another server instance you say? Tons of memory used. Better to have 2 worlds on one server, trust me.

Also, cpu power doesnt just divide like that.

@dizzy4
I dont think you can just 'put' a world on another Java VM. Its not possible.
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I want to do that, but I was asked to stick with ITX for the sake of portability.
That being said, if I can make a really freaking awesome mATX build, I think the club will have a change of heart...

Definately look into it, I will list the dimensions here as an example for you.

15.40" x 7.20" x 14.30" mATX
10.87" x 8.74" x 6.93" mITX - your selected case
23.30" x 10.40" x 20.00" Mid ATX

The mATX case is a little taller and longer, but it leaves more air space for overclocking. Definately still in the "Portable" range.
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@dizzy4
I dont think you can just 'put' a world on another Java VM. Its not possible.

I know. It would have to be a separate server with it's own port that differs from the other server. You are right about memory, but with memory so cheap these days it might be an option. Multiple worlds in one server is still better as you suggested. Since the OP will have extra cores and plenty of memory I would hate to see it go to waste smile.gif Maybe that minecraft server would have different mods or a different playmode. With 8GB or 16GB of total system ram and a 4 core processor (good NIC too) this is very possible. If not, just fold with the extra cores biggrin.gif
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Let me ask this as a general question, since I think the whole build really hinges on this one Q:

Does it make more sense to stick with what I have now, or to get a fewer-core, faster processor and OC the hell out of it?
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Let me ask this as a general question, since I think the whole build really hinges on this one Q:
Does it make more sense to stick with what I have now, or to get a fewer-core, faster processor and OC the hell out of it?

Problem is, it's not really an option. The next lower CPU is i3 2100 not even sure if it's possible to over clock the i3. Don't think you could beat the i5 2500k for options and value on this build
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Let me ask this as a general question, since I think the whole build really hinges on this one Q:
Does it make more sense to stick with what I have now, or to get a fewer-core, faster processor and OC the hell out of it?

I've been telling you already.

Get a K processor and OC it.
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Its not that simple, and I can assure I am correct.
Lets just do a simple number demonstration.
Server 1:
1GB of ram used default
Add plugins, bumps it 250mb
1 world on, used 500mb
Great, were using 1750mb, w/o players.
You want another server instance you say? Tons of memory used. Better to have 2 worlds on one server, trust me.
Also, cpu power doesnt just divide like that.
@dizzy4
I dont think you can just 'put' a world on another Java VM. Its not possible.

That 1GB of ram Is whats used for the whole server

So that's 750mb without players By your calculation

Thats still wrong 1gb could hold 20 players with about 15 plugins
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I have to run for now, but I'll be back later with a build or two (ill play with an mATX solution)...
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Problem is, it's not really an option. The next lower CPU is i3 2100 not even sure if it's possible to over clock the i3. Don't think you could beat the i5 2500k for options and value on this build

+1. Can't think of anything that would beat this on a water loop at the moment.
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