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That 1GB of ram Is whats used for the whole server
So that's 750mb without players By your calculation
Thats still wrong 1gb could hold 20 players with about 15 plugins

Was just a simple number demonstration, not actual values. rolleyes.gif
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Was just a simple number demonstration, not actual values. rolleyes.gif

Sorry :/

Although the Build looks good for what you seem to be doing
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What if you wait for Ivy Bridge and get a motherboard with a Q or Z series chipset. That way you can overclock it if the time ever comes. Also the Z series chipset supports various other SSD related features.

For the CPU it helps to get on with Intel HD graphics 3000 or higher since Minecraft can be kind of demanding graphically (the irony).

I have been thinking about doing a similar build only I would be able to use a standard atx sized board rather than just a m-itx board.

A system with only a 95 watt TDP (or 77 watt if you go ivy bridge) shouldn't have any cooling problems no matter the case it's in. Just stick with the stock coolers if you don't plan on seriously overclocking.
If you wanted to you could put it in a cereal box and it should work fine.

So far I would say it looks very solid.
Edited by IvantheDugtrio - 3/29/12 at 2:13pm
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What if you wait for Ivy Bridge and get a motherboard with a Q or Z series chipset. That way you can overclock it if the time ever comes. Also the Z series chipset supports various other SSD related features.

I don't see the shift from Sandy to Ivy being much, for this build at least. I would be pushing to wait for Ivy if I knew Sandy would go down considerably in price (which it won't), or if overclocking would be significantly better (which there is no real reason to expect it will be), but since that is not the case, meh... You can try to convince me otherwise, but waiting a month for limited availability and a price premium on a moderate bump seems silly (I prefer to buy on tocks anyhow, even when late to purchase).

...In any case, I do have a bit of bad news, which is that the motherboard I had chosen is gone. It was an open box, so I should have expected this, but I am looking for a replacement that can handle an OC, and am open to suggestions or recommendations.

Excluding a motherboard, this is the build as it stands (with a budget max of $600, although cheaper never hurts):

SilverStone Sugo SG05-B Black SECC / Plastic Mini-ITX Desktop Computer Case SFX 300W 80Plus Power Supply
Newegg, $104.99
SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MV-3V4G3D/US
Newegg, $47.99
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
Newegg, $204.99 (inc. $15.00 promo)
Corsair Force Series 3 CSSD-F60GB3A-BK 2.5" 60GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Newegg, $79.99 (inc. $15.00 promo, can get $15 MIR too)
Corsair Cooling Hydro-Series All-in-One High-Performance Liquid CPU Cooler CWCH60
Amazon, $55.93

TOTAL: $493.89

I should thank everyone for your help with this build... This is the first time I have been on Overclock.net's forums, and you all have been extremely helpful, beyond whatever expectations I had. So thanks! biggrin.gif
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But what about multiple servers? Having 3 worlds would use all the threads, right?
Back to looking for parts tongue.gif

Each server will sure 1-2 threads but if you run multiworld on one server then it will still use 1-2 thread regardless of the number of worlds. The main thing that is going to slow down any server is plugins. I am the main OCN MC admin, you can PM me if you want. thumb.gif
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Ok, so I have put a prospective build (pretty much the last updated build) up to the club, and I have been given the ok to purchase!

And so, I started getting parts by buying the CPU today at Micro Center. After a sale price and a coupon, I managed to nab the 2500k for $175, which is a full $30 below what Newegg was asking, and cost less than the non-K edition would have even biggrin.gif

That leaves me with $425 left for everything else. After talking with someone with a fair amount of experience in building and maintaining MC servers (*COUGH* kirby *COUGH*), I am intending to purchase a 16GB kit of memory (2x8GB) ... And, since I got a K processor, I am also intending to get a Z68 M-ITX board and a decent cooler. A SSD is also an obvious inclusion, and after some back-of-the-napkin math, I need about 42GB of storage, which a 60-64GB drive would have after formatting.

So right now I am looking for the best deals possible on the memory and the SSD, and I am seeing if the Silverstone SUGO SG05 is cheaper anywhere else. I am also trying to find the ASRock Z68M-ITX/HT (or an insane deal on a new/used ZOTAC Z68ITX-A-E LGA 1155), although if I HAVE to get a P6x board, that can be done, it just isn't preferable.

If anyone knows where good prices are, or even has a part or parts for sale that could work in the build, let me know (I am being pushed to back off a bit from the $600 budget cap, so every $ counts tongue.gif)

I apologize for not updating until now (I have been very busy), but thanks to everyone for your help!

-VGM
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i believe the best deal on SSD's right now off the top my head is a corsair force 3 for $60 ($89.99- $30 MIR) at frys (if you have one near you) i remember seeing it in their ad earlier today

Edit: microcenter also has the agility 3 60gb ssd for $54 currently with MIR (seeing that you do have a microcenter near you tongue.gif )
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i believe the best deal on SSD's right now off the top my head is a corsair force 3 for $60 ($89.99- $30 MIR) at frys (if you have one near you) i remember seeing it in their ad earlier today
Edit: microcenter also has the agility 3 60gb ssd for $54 currently with MIR (seeing that you do have a microcenter near you tongue.gif )

I don't have a Fry's nearby frown.gif BUT I do have a Micro Center, per mentioned earlier, and I am bummed I didn't know this deal was on today when I walked in the store... I generally ignore MIR's when figuring the cost of a component but the sale price alone is pretty great... If I can't beat it, I'll buy it tomorrow, and pursue the MIR anyway.

Thanks for the find though - you should do this bargain-hunting for builders and charge a small commission tongue.gif
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I don't have a Fry's nearby frown.gif BUT I do have a Micro Center, per mentioned earlier, and I am bummed I didn't know this deal was on today when I walked in the store... I generally ignore MIR's when figuring the cost of a component but the sale price alone is pretty great... If I can't beat it, I'll buy it tomorrow, and pursue the MIR anyway.

Thanks for the find though - you should do this bargain-hunting for builders and charge a small commission tongue.gif

ah okay, wassnt sure tongue.gif generally i hate mir since they take so long frown.gif

hah, only if i could be a job smile.gif

but i think the asrock itx would be your best bet for mobos since there are really only 2 overclockable itx boards for the 2500k (and dont think there are any p67 itx boards out, at least that im aware of) with an z68 chipset the asrock z68m-itx ht and the zotac z68 itx wifi. Own both boards and they are both very good boards, Although they wont OC as well as a full size board they are usually able to get OC's around 3.9-4.5ghz with a 2500k (depending) from what ive seen (on my zotac z68 itx ive gotten to ~4.5ghz, trying for 5ghz with some watercooling later this year)

But the asrock would fit the budget, overclockable and .. well generally cheaper then the zotac board. But on the other parts i havent really seen any lower prices on them but amazon does have similar prices to newegg, so if you dont get charged tax with amazon it could help tongue.gif i get charged tax in california with newegg so i get all my parts off amazon or goto microcenter frown.gif
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ah okay, wassnt sure tongue.gif generally i hate mir since they take so long frown.gif
hah, only if i could be a job smile.gif
but i think the asrock itx would be your best bet for mobos since there are really only 2 overclockable itx boards for the 2500k (and dont think there are any p67 itx boards out, at least that im aware of) with an z68 chipset the asrock z68m-itx ht and the zotac z68 itx wifi. Own both boards and they are both very good boards, Although they wont OC as well as a full size board they are usually able to get OC's around 3.9-4.5ghz with a 2500k (depending) from what ive seen (on my zotac z68 itx ive gotten to ~4.5ghz, trying for 5ghz with some watercooling later this year)
But the asrock would fit the budget and its allows overclocking. But on the other parts i havent really seen any lower prices on them but amazon does have similar prices to newegg, so if you dont get charged tax with amazon it could help tongue.gif i get charged tax in california with newegg so i get all my parts off amazon or goto microcenter frown.gif

The problem I am having is with availability - I can't find the ASRock anywhere, new or used... I am happy to hear that you have had good experiences with both boards, though!

If you could pass along links to any board that would work, it would be very helpful. I am trying to order as much as I can in the next 24 hours tongue.gif

-VGM

Edit/Update: I don't get taxed by Newegg but I do have about 7.5% tax if I go to Microcenter. So, for example, the SSD you linked would cost $76 after tax.

UPDATE 2: Holy crap - I can get the Agility 3 at Micro Center for $50!! Look, just printed it: What I get for reading too fast: MC is lame and includes the MIR in that price. D'oh tongue.gif

UPDATE 3: Look below the first pic for the coupon I printed... It is quite misleading. They set the price at $50 but dont mention on the coupon that the price includes a MIR...

520

450
Edited by VGM10000 - 4/1/12 at 10:53pm
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