Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD - General › low budget gaming build help
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

low budget gaming build help - Page 3

post #21 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterFred View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
@truckerguy
That cherry-picked section compares AMD integrated graphics vs Intel integrated graphics, which you neglected to mention and is not comparison not at issue here. I said in the very post above yours that AMD integrated is better than Intel integrated graphics, so you're not bringing up anything new.
I specifically recommended an Intel processor with a separate, discrete graphics card. Which is more powerful than AMD integrated or fusion crossfire graphics. As that article makes clear.
And of course if you read the article you are well aware that the conclusions page to that article questioned if there was a useful gaming niche for the a8 at all. Being misleading and trying to get people to buy a ****ty system by telling them it's better is pretty trollish. If xzamples wants to buy an AMD processor & run integrated graphics because it's cheaper, well all well and good. Only he can judge the monetary value of the performance difference: that's subjective because $100 to one guy is a big deal but to another guy it's well worth it for an improved gaming experience. But don't try and shove a processor on someone for no good reason or, worse, fool them into picking an option just because you're a fanboy of a system.

Well said thumb.gif
The Sig Rig
(19 items)
 
Wifey Rig
(11 items)
 
Xbox PC
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500k @ 4.8GHz stable ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3 MSI GTX 980 Ti 32GB (4 x 8GB) 1866Mhz Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
256GB Crucial M4 1.5 TB HDD XSPC Raystorm RS360 Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Acer 28" 4K Corsair AX750 Corsair 800D SWTOR Razer Naga 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium XSPC RS120 8 x GT AP-15s White Sleeved Cables for Corsair AX750 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3Ghz Asus P5G41T-M LX Plus EVGA GTX 680 2x4 GB 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
500GB WD Black 64 GB Crucial M4 Sony CD/DVD burner H40 w/ GT AP-15s 
OSPowerCase
Windows 7 Home 64 bit Corsair CX430 APEVIA X-Plorer2 Pink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium G620 Foxconn H67S ITX Intel HD 2000 2 x 4GB 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
256GB Crucial M4 Old Laptop CD/DVD drive Windows 7 picoPSU-150-XT 
OtherOtherOther
4 x Purple LEDs Power button Tranquility Xbox 360 Skin 
  hide details  
Reply
The Sig Rig
(19 items)
 
Wifey Rig
(11 items)
 
Xbox PC
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500k @ 4.8GHz stable ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3 MSI GTX 980 Ti 32GB (4 x 8GB) 1866Mhz Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
256GB Crucial M4 1.5 TB HDD XSPC Raystorm RS360 Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Acer 28" 4K Corsair AX750 Corsair 800D SWTOR Razer Naga 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium XSPC RS120 8 x GT AP-15s White Sleeved Cables for Corsair AX750 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3Ghz Asus P5G41T-M LX Plus EVGA GTX 680 2x4 GB 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
500GB WD Black 64 GB Crucial M4 Sony CD/DVD burner H40 w/ GT AP-15s 
OSPowerCase
Windows 7 Home 64 bit Corsair CX430 APEVIA X-Plorer2 Pink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium G620 Foxconn H67S ITX Intel HD 2000 2 x 4GB 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
256GB Crucial M4 Old Laptop CD/DVD drive Windows 7 picoPSU-150-XT 
OtherOtherOther
4 x Purple LEDs Power button Tranquility Xbox 360 Skin 
  hide details  
Reply
post #22 of 37
how about this

CPU:
Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard:
ECS H61H2-M2(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($37.98 @ Newegg)
Memory:
G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.95 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card:
Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply:
Rosewill 530W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Total: before MIR $505.89 Shipped and after MIR $470.89

with that you can game at med-high at res like 1080p biggrin.gif

Hope you like it thumb.gif
post #23 of 37
Edit: Re:Trinity

Dunno - I have no idea when desktop Trinity will come out or what the graphics/processor improvements will be. I'll probably be making my next laptop purchase a Trinity processor though, if they manage good battery life numbers.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
G850 ASRock H61M-GS MSI Twin Frozr 650ti Patriot 2x2GB 
Hard DriveCoolingPowerMouse
Barracuda 500GB HR-02 Macho Rosewill Green 430 Mionix Naos 3200 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
G850 ASRock H61M-GS MSI Twin Frozr 650ti Patriot 2x2GB 
Hard DriveCoolingPowerMouse
Barracuda 500GB HR-02 Macho Rosewill Green 430 Mionix Naos 3200 
  hide details  
Reply
post #24 of 37
I wasent adding a gpu mob and APU thats it so I don't have the expence of a gpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106004

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157277

for a total of 156.00

the fact that you added a gpu it takes it to a diffrent level and the I3 with a gpu will out performe the 3800 all day but I see it as compairing to aplles to organges
post #25 of 37
and if you dont have problems if the rig goes over 500$ before rebate the

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: ECS H61H2-M2(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($37.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.95 @ Newegg)

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)

Total:$560.89 Shipped and after MIR $485.89

thumb.gif
post #26 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by truckerguy View Post

I wasent adding a gpu mob and APU thats it so I don't have the expence of a gpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157277
for a total of 156.00
the fact that you added a gpu it takes it to a diffrent level and the I3 with a gpu will out performe the 3800 all day but I see it as compairing to aplles to organges

compare their processing power. llanos are nice, but they can only be taken so far. (only xfire with a 6670 MAX). They are great for that price, but when the budget allows it, a i3 + GPU should always be the preferred route.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarun View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
how about this
CPU:
Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard:
ECS H61H2-M2(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($37.98 @ Newegg)
Memory:
G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.95 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card:
Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply:
Rosewill 530W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: before MIR $505.89 Shipped and after MIR $470.89
with that you can game at med-high at res like 1080p biggrin.gif
Hope you like it thumb.gif
Looks almost identical to the first build suggested tongue.gif
Also, Tarun, the H61 chipset only supports up to 1333MHz RAM, you are paying more for 1600Mhz and you arent getting any functionality.
and see if you can a 560 ti 448 core in the second build and it will be the best one yet tongue.gif
the 560 Ti and 6870 practically trade blows for gaming
The Sig Rig
(19 items)
 
Wifey Rig
(11 items)
 
Xbox PC
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500k @ 4.8GHz stable ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3 MSI GTX 980 Ti 32GB (4 x 8GB) 1866Mhz Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
256GB Crucial M4 1.5 TB HDD XSPC Raystorm RS360 Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Acer 28" 4K Corsair AX750 Corsair 800D SWTOR Razer Naga 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium XSPC RS120 8 x GT AP-15s White Sleeved Cables for Corsair AX750 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3Ghz Asus P5G41T-M LX Plus EVGA GTX 680 2x4 GB 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
500GB WD Black 64 GB Crucial M4 Sony CD/DVD burner H40 w/ GT AP-15s 
OSPowerCase
Windows 7 Home 64 bit Corsair CX430 APEVIA X-Plorer2 Pink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium G620 Foxconn H67S ITX Intel HD 2000 2 x 4GB 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
256GB Crucial M4 Old Laptop CD/DVD drive Windows 7 picoPSU-150-XT 
OtherOtherOther
4 x Purple LEDs Power button Tranquility Xbox 360 Skin 
  hide details  
Reply
The Sig Rig
(19 items)
 
Wifey Rig
(11 items)
 
Xbox PC
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500k @ 4.8GHz stable ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3 MSI GTX 980 Ti 32GB (4 x 8GB) 1866Mhz Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
256GB Crucial M4 1.5 TB HDD XSPC Raystorm RS360 Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Acer 28" 4K Corsair AX750 Corsair 800D SWTOR Razer Naga 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium XSPC RS120 8 x GT AP-15s White Sleeved Cables for Corsair AX750 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3Ghz Asus P5G41T-M LX Plus EVGA GTX 680 2x4 GB 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
500GB WD Black 64 GB Crucial M4 Sony CD/DVD burner H40 w/ GT AP-15s 
OSPowerCase
Windows 7 Home 64 bit Corsair CX430 APEVIA X-Plorer2 Pink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium G620 Foxconn H67S ITX Intel HD 2000 2 x 4GB 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSPower
256GB Crucial M4 Old Laptop CD/DVD drive Windows 7 picoPSU-150-XT 
OtherOtherOther
4 x Purple LEDs Power button Tranquility Xbox 360 Skin 
  hide details  
Reply
post #27 of 37
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterFred View Post

Edit: Re:Trinity
Dunno - I have no idea when desktop Trinity will come out or what the graphics/processor improvements will be. I'll probably be making my next laptop purchase a Trinity processor though, if they manage good battery life numbers.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Trinity-A10-5800K-Performance-Tested-Provides-50-Faster-Graphics-259848.shtml

http://www.guru3d.com/news/amd-trinity-a105800k-performance-tested/

http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/AMD-A-Series-Trinity-APU-Specs-Unveiled-Top-at-3-8GHz-3.jpg/

apparently coming out june/july of this year
Current Rig
(10 items)
 
Old
(11 items)
 
2014
(14 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Foxxconn 6150BK8MC 256MB ATI RADEON X800 PCIE 2.5 GB DDR400 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
80 GB Western Digital Thermaltake GunMet Orb MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Acer S230HL 
PowerCase
Allied SL-8360BTX ATX 350w Antec 300 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ K8 Combo-Z 256MB ATI Radeon 9550 / X1050 Series 1 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
80 GB Western Digital OPTORITE CD-RW MS Windows XP Professional 32-bit SP3 Acer S230HL 23-Inch 
Power
Orion YH-480w 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-4670K MSI Z87-G45 MSI GTX 760 TF 2GD5 8GB G.SKILL Trident X DDR3-2400 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Seagate Barracuda 500GB Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Microsoft Windows 10 Acer S230HL 23" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G105 SeaSonic M12II 620w 80+ Bronze Antec 300 Razer Deathadder 2013 
  hide details  
Reply
Current Rig
(10 items)
 
Old
(11 items)
 
2014
(14 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Foxxconn 6150BK8MC 256MB ATI RADEON X800 PCIE 2.5 GB DDR400 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
80 GB Western Digital Thermaltake GunMet Orb MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Acer S230HL 
PowerCase
Allied SL-8360BTX ATX 350w Antec 300 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ K8 Combo-Z 256MB ATI Radeon 9550 / X1050 Series 1 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
80 GB Western Digital OPTORITE CD-RW MS Windows XP Professional 32-bit SP3 Acer S230HL 23-Inch 
Power
Orion YH-480w 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-4670K MSI Z87-G45 MSI GTX 760 TF 2GD5 8GB G.SKILL Trident X DDR3-2400 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Seagate Barracuda 500GB Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Microsoft Windows 10 Acer S230HL 23" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G105 SeaSonic M12II 620w 80+ Bronze Antec 300 Razer Deathadder 2013 
  hide details  
Reply
post #28 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironman517 View Post

Looks almost identical to the first build suggested tongue.gif
Also, Tarun, the H61 chipset only supports up to 1333MHz RAM, you are paying more for 1600Mhz and you arent getting any functionality.
and see if you can a 560 ti 448 core in the second build and it will be the best one yet tongue.gif
the 560 Ti and 6870 practically trade blows for gaming
i know the H61 supports max 1333Mhz but you can always tighten the timings and make its faster wink.gif and i tried a 7850 but was not able to do it the best i could get in that was

CPU:
Intel Core i3-2100 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard:
ECS H61H2-M2(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($37.98 @ Newegg)
Memory:
Pareema 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive:
Western Digital Scorpio Black 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.95 @ NCIX US)
Video Card:
Asus Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply:
Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)

Total (before mail-in rebates): $552.89 Shipped and After MIR $507.89
post #29 of 37
it dosent mater weather you go with AMD or intel the bottem like is this it breaks down to FPS per dollar spent a AMD rig that dose 50 FPS will be very close to a Intel rig that dose 50 FPS I knoow this to be ture thier is no rig that will do 50 FPS for the coast of 25 FPS. Ive never said a AMD is beter then Intel I never would but what I do find trollish is someone who only owens a Intel rig comming into a AMD form promoting that Intel is beter then AMD for gamming on all levels
post #30 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironman517 View Post

You really should be looking at this page to compare the CPUs
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fusion-intel-core-i3_5.html#sect1
your page is comparing the APU GPU and the HD3000 graphics doh.gif

No, no one should use SYSmark to compare Intel and AMD modern CPU's. There is a reason AMD distanced itself from the suite.
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/87438-amd-damns-sysmark-2012-resigns-from-bapco

AMD's 960t is the real budget king to me. You can grab one for $99 at MicroCenter(even online) ,add a $75 mobo and you have a rig that will outpace the G850 in everything, and that's before overclocking or unlocking.
Amelia
(13 items)
 
Professional
(13 items)
 
RCPC#1
(17 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1100t MSI 890FX GD65 MSI Radeon HD5670 GSkill RipjawsX DDR3 PC3 12800 2x4GB CL8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD Black 1TB SATA III Samsung BD Zalman 9900MAX Windows 7 64 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
AOC 22" LED Logitech Kingwin Lazer Platinum 500w Fractal Design R3 
Other
Samsung 470 SSD 128GB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 960T Asus M4A88T-VEVO Asus Strix R7 370 SuperTalent Perfomance 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
GSkill Snipers Monster Daytona Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7,200 RPM 16Mb cache Memorex DVD/RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H60 Windows 8N IBM 9494 19" LCD IBM 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair GS500 In Win H-Frame Wolfking OCZ Behemoth 
Audio
JBL Creature 
  hide details  
Reply
Amelia
(13 items)
 
Professional
(13 items)
 
RCPC#1
(17 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1100t MSI 890FX GD65 MSI Radeon HD5670 GSkill RipjawsX DDR3 PC3 12800 2x4GB CL8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD Black 1TB SATA III Samsung BD Zalman 9900MAX Windows 7 64 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
AOC 22" LED Logitech Kingwin Lazer Platinum 500w Fractal Design R3 
Other
Samsung 470 SSD 128GB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 960T Asus M4A88T-VEVO Asus Strix R7 370 SuperTalent Perfomance 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
GSkill Snipers Monster Daytona Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7,200 RPM 16Mb cache Memorex DVD/RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H60 Windows 8N IBM 9494 19" LCD IBM 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair GS500 In Win H-Frame Wolfking OCZ Behemoth 
Audio
JBL Creature 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD - General
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD - General › low budget gaming build help