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Seriously wrong for full cover motherboard blocks. They generally are extremely restrictive.

He's looking for the Asus Rampage Extreme IV kit. EK sells them...

http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/upload/pictures/EK-FB-KIT-RE4---NP-2_800.jpg

Do you see any fins in there?
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I have seen no reviews on this block with restriction results but mb blocks are commonly highly restrictive. That said it's common for MB blocks to have fins?..... just intrigued never seen one with them.
    
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I am really intrigued by this as I really doubt a fan cannot do the job on VRMs. Sure it's not going to be pretty but I am highly sceptic you absolutely need mobo block. I haven't seen any test if the block is restrictive or not. MB block are notoriously known to be restrictive, fins or not.
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FYI - I have a big external radiator (MO-RA3) far separated from the case (i.e. 7', and right near an HVAC return as a bonus). I'll have two pumps in my system, this block doesn't appear to have any flow constraint.

I see some conflicting statements as well as other advice, but does this sum it up?
Quote:
Money spent on a full mobo block may not be the most effective money spent, but may be just what a person wants if they desire an almost silent setup.

To sum up the loop design I have in mind:
External Rad -> CPU -> Res/Pump -> GPUs -> Mobo Blocks -> External Rad

Or, should I try to parallel off the pump to GPU/Mobo Blocks, then parallel it back to the external radiator return?
 
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post #25 of 54
i have a classified with nf200 chip, it gets stupid hot, as well as volterra, and an x58 chipset, they also get stupid hot for no apparent reason, i would need a full cover block.
if you dont have any of the above issues then you dont need one.
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FYI - I have a big external radiator (MO-RA3) far separated from the case (i.e. 7', and right near an HVAC return as a bonus). I'll have two pumps in my system, this block doesn't appear to have any flow constraint.
I see some conflicting statements as well as other advice, but does this sum it up?
Quote:
Money spent on a full mobo block may not be the most effective money spent, but may be just what a person wants if they desire an almost silent setup.
To sum up the loop design I have in mind:
External Rad -> CPU -> Res/Pump -> GPUs -> Mobo Blocks -> External Rad
Or, should I try to parallel off the pump to GPU/Mobo Blocks, then parallel it back to the external radiator return?

I would put the mobo block at the end of the loop, pump in serie (always).

res,pump,pump - CPU - GPU - mobo block

Put the radiators where you want. Doesn't matter much, but I prefer cooler CPU (so radiators before the CPU), GPUs can easily support higher temperature.
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post #27 of 54
It's not so much that the chipsets needs water cooling, but on the 2011 Sandy Bridge-E the VRM's get extremely hot even at 4+GHz! You better make up your mind now whether or not you are wanting a medium overclock because once you start pushing those VRM's they push back with intense heat! The only reason why I'm going full MB blocks is because of those VRMs, so I figured why not just do the chipsets as well you are not going to hurt anything.

I don't see many setups go into a component block first, it's nice to have the reservoir -> pump -> radiator -> CPU (MB blocks) -> GPU.
Edited by Systemlord - 4/1/12 at 5:24am
post #28 of 54
mine did, i see on issue if the flow is reasonable and the claimed 1C or so per 150w of heat claim that i read somewhere is correct. It would really only make a notable difference if you ran if through something like SLI 480 and then your CPU imo
    
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I would put the mobo block at the end of the loop, pump in serie (always).
res,pump,pump - CPU - GPU - mobo block
Put the radiators where you want. Doesn't matter much, but I prefer cooler CPU (so radiators before the CPU), GPUs can easily support higher temperature.

it should go res->pump->rad->cpu->mobo->gpu....... heat from the gpu's would be higher than the heat created by the VRM's. You would be heating not cooling the VRM's. VRM temperature might raise the coolant temps by 1C if you cool them between the cpu and gpu's.
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post #30 of 54
Whether or not you need a full cover block depends on the airflow over your board after you've cooled everything else, and the stock cooling already in place. If your board will get very little airflow, or the stock cooling is not adequate for the job, then yes, a full cover block can help a lot. If you have a lot of air flowing, and the stock cooling is decent, you don't need it, but may desire it for looks.

It doesn't matter where in your loop you put it, place it wherever is best for your tubing layout, these chips/vrms may get hot, but that's usually only because the stock cooling is only barely adequate for the job with a big clock running. They don't actually make that much heat in themselves, after the CPU and before the GPU is a common position, but they can go before the CPU if that makes your tubing setup easier. Depends on the board and on the block. You will only see a 1c or so difference in the downstream block temperatures.

It can even be after the GPUs, with water, your temps are going to be lower anyway, so the VRMs and NB will be cooler than they would be under air even with the water at the warmest part of the loop.
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