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The fact remains that Origin =! Internet.
Therefore, the article states that Origin is required to start playing the game. Origin has offline mode.
Therefore, Origin can be accessed offline.
Therefore, you can "start playing the game" offline.
Therefore, the article does not say that internet is required to start playing the game.
Origin = Origin.
Internet = Internet.
Therefore, Origin != Internet.
Therefore the article is not stating you need internet to start playing.
Therefore, it is not always on DRM.
Therefore, therefore, heretheretoforehitherandthere.
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I think I just derped a little..
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HOW COME NO ONE MENTIONED NO MOD SUPPORT ON DAY 1?!

As far as I'm concerned, because I don't quite need it.

I didn't mod my SC4 besides the traffic mod that increased the flux a road was capable of holding.
   
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(Sorry to hear you've had a bad day. However I am a persistant SOB so: )

Ya but the article states specifically that an official statement was made that states that Origin is required to start playing.

"Origin" is not "internet". Origin is "Origin".

The only person adding the word "internet" into the sentence is yourself and the people who made the mistake initially that had to be corrected.

Origin is required to start playing the game, but Origin is not synonymous with "internet".

Origin is synonymous with the client that you use to authenticate, install and run the games.

I just attempted to log into Origin from a cold boot with no network connection and it worked just fine.

This means Origin is available offline.

Origin is required to start playing.

Origin is available offline.

Therefore the requirement for Origin does not mean there is a requirement for online connection.

It means there is a requirement for Origin, which is also available offline.

Which means that it is not an always-on connection.

Which means, therefore, etc and blah blah.
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The EA representative told the site that gamers will need to remain online via Origin to play SimCity, regardless of whether or not gamers purchase the title through that outlet. According to EA, an always-on connection is necessary due to the game's focus on multiplayer and worldwide economies.
That sounds like always online internet connection DRM to me.
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That sounds like always online internet connection DRM to me.

Well if you're going to play the online part of the game, then yes, you most likely will need to actually be online.
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I agree most copiously.
Although,
If we don't stand up for a principle that we believe in (yes I know my voice on the internet has no weight), then what's the point of believing in anything?
(Was if you who said that you hunt down and investigate hackers/suspects in BF3 relentlessly?)
I think part of the reason I get so up in arms about it is I used to be one of those individuals.
Have you ever read a book called Ender's Game?
The political system portrayed in the book is controlled mostly by bloggers and internet folk. Maybe one day we'll have a similar system, and then me and my soapbox will be waiting on a corner attempting to protect one of my passions. tongue.giftongue.giftongue.gif
Replace all of your "Therefore" with "theoretically" and we can agree. Right now there's not enough information to make a judgement. I've had a bad day, apologies for arguing incessantly. Arguing over semantics is just that ded horse i beat up for the 3rd time today.
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LOL@bold! Well, hopefully your day is picking up.

But the thing is--what principle is being stood up for? So there's no point to talk to a mothership to launch and play a SP you paid for--I agree. But that's not a principle. A principle would be standing up against a connection being used under the guise of "DRM" (for lack of a better word), but is actually being used to steal your data/info under subterfuge, or some other ulterior motive. A principle would be standing up against the harm that something brings. This doesn't bring harm.

Don't get me wrong, I'm mostly playing devil's advocate--I'd be happy to not have some sort of thing like this, but having it doesn't really affect anyone, or doesn't negatively impact anyone.
    
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Well if you're going to play the online part of the game, then yes, you most likely will need to actually be online.

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The question he made was so... obvious tongue.gif
   
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(Sorry to hear you've had a bad day. However I am a persistant SOB so: )
Ya but the article states specifically that an official statement was made that states that Origin is required to start playing.
"Origin" is not "internet". Origin is "Origin".
The only person adding the word "internet" into the sentence is yourself and the people who made the mistake initially that had to be corrected.
Origin is required to start playing the game, but Origin is not synonymous with "internet".
Origin is synonymous with the client that you use to authenticate, install and run the games.
I just attempted to log into Origin from a cold boot with no network connection and it worked just fine.
This means Origin is available offline.
Origin is required to start playing.
Origin is available offline.
Therefore the requirement for Origin does not mean there is a requirement for online connection.
It means there is a requirement for Origin, which is also available offline.
Which means that it is not an always-on connection.
Which means, therefore, etc and blah blah.

I got it the first time, good sir.

When the game actually releases, I want you to try the same process with the game. smile.gif.
Because the game isn't due to release in 2013, we could both be correct. tongue.gif.

Thankfully, Origin has a better offline mode than steam, so I'm hoping that your assumptions are correct.
...that is of course, unless the game needs to "re-authenticate" for some odd reason (this has never happened before /s).
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403
The question he made was so... obvious tongue.gif

Well, i guess i read that wrong, i thought you actually needed to be online all the time just to play the game, guess i was wrong.
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I got it the first time, good sir.
When the game actually releases, I want you to try the same process with the game. smile.gif.
Because the game isn't due to release in 2013, we could both be correct. tongue.gif.
Thankfully, Origin has a better offline mode than steam, so I'm hoping that your assumptions are correct.
...that is of course, unless the game needs to "re-authenticate" for some odd reason (this has never happened before /s).

We shall see!
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