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Hey all, first time poster long time lurker. I've been meaning to build a PC for some time now, but I finally have some $$ put aside for a decent hardware and I was hoping someone here at Overclock would be able to help me out.

I already have a BenQ G2400WD monitor, a Deathadder and a K60, all I need is the computer. I also have a TB external drive for storage,so if it's possible SSD would be preferable. I understand SSD are expensive, if I need to make room for it in my budget I wouldn't want to skimp in quality/performance on hardware to the point where it could take away from my gaming experience. I want to be able to run TOR, Diablo III, Skyrim and whatever Respawn Entertainment is going to be putting out, not on max settings or anything but comfortably.

My experience with building computers is nonexistent (never upgraded anything), but I used to mod my Gamecube all the time back in the day so I know my way around circuitry and soldering. I figured knowing what to buy is the most difficult part when it comes to building a PC so hopefully I came to the right place. I want to buy all of the hardware from a company I know and trust like Newegg and/or TigerDirect for convenience and peace of mind.

Forgive my ignorance on the subject, I'm new to gaming PCs in general. Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance...
Edited by xKiiwiiz - 3/29/12 at 8:11am
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Here's a $800 sim~build on if you cant wait for corei5 3570K + z77 motherboard this late april

cpu Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 ~ $220 free shipping

pcb ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 ~ $122+$8 = $130 shipped

ram Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 Model 996995 ~ $45 free shipping

ssd Patriot Pyro PP60GS25SSDR 2.5" 60GB SATA III MLC ~ $96 - $25MIR =$72 free shipping

psu LEPA B550-SA 550W SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80+ BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply ~ $70-$20MIR = $50 free shipping

case NZXT Source 210 S210-001 Black “Aluminum Brush / Plastic” ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ~ $40+$8 = $48 shipped

gpu MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 ~ $220 - $30 MIR = $190 free shipping

odd Samsung 22X DVD Burner 22X SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM ~ $16 free shipping


Total ~ $772 after rebate

best bang for the buck cpu + z68 motherboard, will have upgrade path to ivy bridge, if you cant wait, 8GB 1600 ram SB sweetspot on memory, decent 550W 80+ psu & gtx 560ti videocard
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Cool cool cool. I can definitely wait for the 3570k, thanks a lot xnuw. I've been eyeing the Pyro SSDs for a while now. Just out of curiosity: what is your opinion of the equivalent Force and Chronos series? Same goes for RAM: what is your opinion of the equivalent Vengeance and Ripjaws series?

I was expecting to save a lot building vs. buying a Maingear or Velocity Micro, but I'm truly shocked to see what you can build for $800. Thanks again for your help, this advice is invaluable.
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If you were ready to pull the trigger on a 2500k as suggested bove, you can save $20 + free shipping by ordering it through TigerDirect- today only though.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7073161

Thought I'd drop it by thumb.gif
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Cool cool cool. I can definitely wait for the 3570k, thanks a lot xnuw. I've been eyeing the Pyro SSDs for a while now. Just out of curiosity: what is your opinion of the equivalent Force and Chronos series? Same goes for RAM: what is your opinion of the equivalent Vengeance and Ripjaws series?

I was expecting to save a lot building vs. buying a Maingear or Velocity Micro, but I'm truly shocked to see what you can build for $800. Thanks again for your help, this advice is invaluable.

Regarding the SSD, I'd recommend intel, crucial, or samsung. They're a little more expensive, but you can sometimes catch them on sale. They're generally considered some of the most reliable drives in the business. That said, I just picked up an OCZ agility3 to use as an SSD cache and it's working fine (so far, we'll see how the reliability goes tongue.gif) edit: the reason I got an OCZ was that it was super cheap after a microcenter coupon, so I'm willing to take a little risk on the reliability. Also, since it's only a cache, if it goes out, I don't lose any data.

For RAM, I'd honestly get the cheapest 8 GB (2x4GB) kit that you find. There are some good ones that can OC well, such as the samsung 30nm kit, but RAM doesn't make much difference for sandy bridge. If you're going to be gaming, the difference between 1333 MHz ram and 1600 MHz is often less than 1-2%. Unless you're benchmarking or enjoy ocing everything and tinkering, just get something cheaper.

Regarding ivy bridge, you might want to consider buying now if you're going to enjoy it immediately. Ivy is about a month away (if it's not delayed again rolleyes.gif) but it's only about 5-10% better than sandy bridge. Depending on what you're doing (gaming?) this performance increase would be rather minimal, so you should consider whether you'll be happier having a computer a month sooner rather than waiting for an extra 5-10% performance and maybe some power savings. Though the power savings itself may be worth the wait if you plan on doing lots of folding or BOINC work.

And of course, if you do decide to wait for ivy bridge, ask about a build again in a month. Prices will change and new things might be out, so it will be best to go with a build that's up to date on pricing and part availability.
Edited by Molybdenum - 3/29/12 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by halfeatenwaffles View Post

If you were ready to pull the trigger on a 2500k, you can save $20 + free shipping by ordering it through TigerDirect- today only though.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7073161
Thought I'd drop it by thumb.gif

Ooo, thanks for the heads up, but I'm going to wait for the 3570k.

Just something I noticed when comparing hardware on Newegg: the LG 22x SATA OEM has faster access and re-write times and (I don't know how much this matters) 1.5 MB buffer memory. Is it worth the extra $10 with shipping? Thanks again for any help.
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Good points Molybdenum. I will have to come back in about a month or so then haha. Either way, I love to learn and if anything I'm developing a more comprehensive understanding in the process. Other than gaming, I do a lot of P2P and some freelance graphics/webdev so I'll run PaintShop Pro and/or Fireworks with Dreamweaver from time to time. Does that change the RAM aspect at all (doubtful tonguesmiley.gif)?

I'll look into the SSD market some more. I just like the idea of going with a smaller company.
Edited by xKiiwiiz - 3/29/12 at 11:55am
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Take apart your external HDD and Or reuse your old HDD in this system.

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CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.95 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores 1.25GB Video Card ($277.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 370 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.26 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $760.90

This build also has a great PSU that will let you SLI or expand to better hardware in the future. thumb.gif

Oh and the 560Ti, is a 448 core. A more powerful version of a regular 560 Ti, it is comparable to a 570.


If you really want a SSD, make sure you grab a Crucial M4, Samsung 830 or a nice Intel one. thumb.gif
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Thanks for the reply Ironman, I'm checking that build out now... I'm definitely going to grab an SSD so I'll take a look at Intel. If I need to sacrifice performance to afford an Intel SSD, in which piece of hardware should that be?

Tell me what you guys think of these three PSUs compared... Any input?

IDK if it's because I picked it out or what, but I feel like the XFX Core Edition 550 Pro is a good balance. However, I do want to have room for upgrades so if that extra 100 watts is crucial then I guess I will have to drop the extra $$ on a PSU.
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the newer intel ssds dont seem to crazy. however, my favorite remains crucials m4
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