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Pay 2 Win now? Or maybe Freemium model now after people already paid 60 USD for the game?
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Originally Posted by zooterboy View Post

I've only been playing a few weeks, and I've found the unlock system to be pretty outrageous so far. I don't have many friends yet, (all my friends are on steam and don't play this) so the likelihood of going 1 and 22 are pretty high because nearly all the beginning weapons suck. I have shot someone with the starting sniperr rifle 8 times only to be shot by them one time and die too much to call this much fun starting out. I still don't have a single kill with a jet because it's pretty tough to live in one more than a few seconds without being shot down because I haven't unlocked flares yet. I'm not that great at FPS's anyway, but this seems pretty steep of a skill ramp for someone starting out to me.
Just my 2c.

Credibility: destroyed.

The problem with the game is not the weapons.

Until you realise this, you will continue to go 1 and 22.
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Pay 2 Win now? Or maybe Freemium model now after people already paid 60 USD for the game?

Yeah, the fact that you can buy guns means that the massive patch you just downloaded with the masses of fine tooth comb WEAPON BALANCING is now irrelevant.

The fact that you can now buy the FAMAS means that the stats for it have now become massively overpowered all of a sudden.

Oh wait, you admit dont even play the game. No wonder you're so clueless, let alone able to understand the weapon mechanics.

Why do you even post in these threads? It makes you look kind of silly when you jump to conclusions without even basic knowledge.
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 3/29/12 at 2:30pm
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Pay 2 Win now? Or maybe Freemium model now after people already paid 60 USD for the game?

Meh, there's way more to a good player than the gun or equipment that they use. It's not like this is a gear/stats based game like a Role-Playing Game.
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Yeah, the fact that you can buy guns means that the massive patch you just downloaded with the masses of fine tooth comb WEAPON BALANCING is now irrelevant.
The fact that you can now buy the FAMAS means that the stats for it have now become massively overpowered all of a sudden.
Oh wait, you admit dont even play the game. No wonder you're so clueless, let alone able to understand the weapon mechanics.
Why do you even post in these threads? It makes you look kind of silly when you jump to conclusions without even basic knowledge.

What makes this game's monetizing model different from other Free2Play? Both have the freemium model and unlocking weapons in BF3 takes forever too. I bet you the next thing released will be paid experience boosters.

More reason to why weapon unlocks in FPS games is regression not progression.
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Meh, there's way more to a good player than the gun or equipment that they use. It's not like this is a gear/stats based game like a Role-Playing Game.

The two most hyped FPS (BF3 and MW3) are becoming more like grindy Asian MMOs.
Edited by Riou - 3/29/12 at 2:37pm
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Pay to win does not really apply for this game.
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Takes forever to unlock weapons does it? Hmm.
Again, it would be awesome if you could stop posting about the game like you actually play it when you'll happily state how you're happy you didn't buy it and blah blah etc in the next Origin bashing thread.
Now.
What makes the BF3 model different that free2play?
Free2play = paying for unlocks that give you a DISTINCT advantage over those who dont.
Battlefield 3 = paying for unlocking early, things that ANYONE can unlock over time, but offer a DIFFERENT way to play, not a direct or distint advantage.
There is a reason why the M16 for instance is so common. It's the first assault gun you get, but it doesn't lack when compared to later unlocks and that's why most people love it.

You do not understand the difference between free2play and pay2win. Free2play means it is free to start playing, but it may cost money for unlocks. You can still unlock items through matches played and time spent. Pay2win is a subset of free2play where you pay to gain overpowered items and weapons to gain advantage (like iOS games).

The fact that you have to unlock vehicles means that most of the game will follow the freemium model. It also explains why you can only roll one soldier per account in BF3 whereas you could make as many soldiers as you want in prior BF games. EA will likely start charging for more soldiers.

BF3 is testing the freemium model. Deny it all you want. Next BF4 will expand it.
post #107 of 298
I don't really care about ppl getting unlocks by paying, but I hate the idea that video game companies now just try to find the way to milk out money out of gamers in such lame ways. I haven't felt the climax that games used to made me feel in so long since now it just seems all about the graphics even though I love games with good graphics.
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Its more like this. Anyone that bough BF3 bough it.. Now its just milking some money. Also its good for those players that are too afraid to play because they will feel inferior to those that have play for 6 months now.
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I honestly could care less about this. If a company wants to offer it, and people are willing to pay for it, I have no right to tell them they can't do it.

However, all unlocks will get you nowhere unless you have the skill to back it up. Very few unlocks actually make you a better player if you know what you're doing. An iron sights can be just as effective as a holographic sights. A laser is great, but your opponent knows when you're looking at them. A tactical light gives away your position at distance. I could keep going. For every "good" unlock, there is a negative side to it as well.

Let them pay to unlock their weapons. I will be there behind them ready to jab a knife into their throats and steal their dog tags. thumb.gif
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IMO this is no different that the Level hacking in CoD series. I don't have a problem there so obv. I have no problem with this either.
 
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