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How did you get that out of what I said? You got some misguided ESP.
Dropping prices is good for everything. Can't see why your defending it. Oh wait...

I am defending current buyers. Dont hope for price-drop but initial lower prices. You and everyone else is waisting their time to expect high end to drop. They will just go up. If HD 7970 does not go down, Nvidia will go up.
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post #82 of 107
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Such a stupid decision. If the 7970s are well-stocked why not lower the price to an appropriate amount so a good number of people whose GTX 680s are backordered will go for the 7970 instead. Right now I doubt a lot of people are willing to pay $50 more for a slower performing card.
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i know what they can do with the 7970 if there is no price drop.......... rolleyes.gif
even if the lightning is dipped in gold, i will buy the faster, cheaper, cooler, and more power efficient gtx 680, because is superior on every aspect i can think

Go right ahead. And be sure to enjoy that "superior" locked voltage control! thumb.gif
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AMD chose that price point so they have to deal with it. If AMD would have maintained performance at value prices, 7970 still would be selling very well for $400-450 from launch until now. I probably would have owned one. But now they risk dropping their whole lineup $50-100 and alienating early adopters. Some of them will never buy AMD again if the dropped the 7970 up to $100 only three months later.

nV on the other hand released three consecutive top end cards for $499 MSRP. GTX 480/580/680. Shockingly consistent from nV.

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Go right ahead. And be sure to enjoy that "superior" locked voltage control! thumb.gif

My GTX 680 1300MHz GPU / 7000MHz Mem OC says otherwise.
The stock voltage is way above any clock a stock GTX 680 can achieve right now. 1.175v.
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AMD chose that price point so they have to deal with it. If AMD would have maintained performance at value prices, 7970 still would be selling very well for $400-450 from launch until now. I probably would have owned one. But now they risk dropping their whole lineup $50-100 and alienating early adopters. Some of them will never buy AMD again if the dropped the 7970 up to $100 only three months later.
nV on the other hand released three consecutive top end cards for $499 MSRP. GTX 480/580/680. Shockingly consistent from nV.
My GTX 680 1300MHz GPU / 7000MHz Mem OC says otherwise.
The stock voltage is way above any clock a stock GTX 680 can achieve right now. 1.175v.

Dude that's the stock GTX 680 voltage peak. Every 680 can hit that voltage but not a mV more. And I'd be very interested to see some proof.gif of that overclock, like maybe a benchmark submission in the Battle Royale thread. A lot of bragging going on from the 680 camp but only a couple of submissions over there. Not saying that the 680 isn't capable, I just haven't seen it yet...
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Truth hurts.. hunh?

 

Specially when incessant children cannot wait...  "Mom, moAr hot pockets". !!!

 

 

 

 

The Radeon R7970 should be $469 to even be considered, (stock 4 stock). Less you have specific needs/wants, etc. The nVidia GTX680 wins all-the-way-around & not by allot, but just enough in each category to make it the clear choice for non-biased consumers

 

 

Availability is not an argument, the card has been out a week. It was highly anticipated and of coarse it's sold out... duh! 

 

 

...did u forget it's only $499 ..?

 

 

 


No I just think you read like an arse, like your way is the only way. Everybody's got an opinion, most can dispense without resorting to put downs, except you. Who the hell are you with this children crap? rolleyes.gif
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You cannot blame them if Kepler yields are so slow, 680 and 7970 have such similar performance and AMD can meet demand atm. Its too bad Nvidia has had problems I would love the GK100.
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Such a stupid decision. If the 7970s are well-stocked why not lower the price to an appropriate amount so a good number of people whose GTX 680s are backordered will go for the 7970 instead. Right now I doubt a lot of people are willing to pay $50 more for a slower performing card.

The fact that AMD has yet to lower the price means that there are a lot of people still buying 7970. With enthusiast, there is the tendency to buy what's on the shelf right now vs wait.
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Ummm....7970's have already dropped in price on Newegg so???

I realize that perhaps these aren't MSRP or MAP cuts but they have been reduced in price since the 680 debuted and the prices will likely stabilize right at or a little under the 680 price point once 680s are in plentiful supply
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This is just my hunch but the currect pricing structure is related to the fact that AMD still has way too many 6800 series cards in the pipeline. Since they can't be rebranded they have to be priced to sell out, which they waited too long to do. Hench the way overpriced 7700 series and in turn the 7800's and 7900's became overpriced. Price / performancewise the 7700's can't touch the 6800's.
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This is just my hunch but the currect pricing structure is related to the fact that AMD still has way too many 6800 series cards in the pipeline. Since they can't be rebranded they have to be priced to sell out, which they waited too long to do. Hench the way overpriced 7700 series and in turn the 7800's and 7900's became overpriced. Price / performancewise the 7700's can't touch the 6800's.


This^

 

 

AMD wasn't ready for the 680 to be so well-rounded. The R6970 is still a great card, but if the R7970 drops to $469, where does that leave AMD whole line up?? Specially with the 8000 series coming in just 5 months time.

 

AMD has to dramatically drop their prices so their whole product line sits right.

 

 

 

 

What will AMD do if nVidia drops the gtx680 just $10 bucks, to $489..?   Fermi didn't sell to well, nVidia wants revenues & I bet they can go alot lower with the GTX680, crushing AMD's midline under that weight.

 
 

 

 

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